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Old 08-14-2008, 07:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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PS: HHO generators do work. 1000's of people are getting 30-40% better MPG. Do some research you'll find out that it does work.
I did some research and found it doesn't work, especially in your application.

http://www.fuelsaving.info/hydrogen.htm

"In principle this does of course work. The problem is that the whole process is very inefficient, and the energy you get from burning the hydrogen cannot possibly be enough to supply the energy required to make the hydrogen in the first place. With an on-board system, the engine is only about 40% efficient at best, and the alternator perhaps 90%, so even if you assume the electrolysis is 100% efficient you only get back about a third of the energy you put in."

I've heard of people driving the electrolysis off of batteries separate from the alternator, requiring nightly charging but just running off the alternator doesn't work.

This is from wikipedia.

Automotive

See also: water-fuelled car and hydrogen fuel enhancement
Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency or to operate a car using water as a fuel. Because the energy required to split water exceeds the energy recouped by burning it, these devices reduce, rather than improve fuel efficiency.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen_flame
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