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Old 04-21-2010, 10:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Toyota FT-86 pricing increase and owner demographic age gets older

via FT86club.com

Looks like the Toyota FT-86 is getting pricier - from $20k base to $23k base, due to ballooning development costs.

Also, the target age demographic is going from the 30's to the 40's

I really hope that this thing isn't turning out like what the Genesis coupe ended up being (overweight, oversized, overpriced).

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Old 04-23-2010, 09:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not much can be done about that - they are targeting a demographic that is likely to buy the car and other Toyota products, hitting loyal customers. Also hitting that age group that would have remembered when and actually driven the original inspiration for the FT86 came about. Also likely to keep insurance costs lower from some knucklehead drivers out there. Given that the median price of a new car is $25,500 - $23K is a good deal.
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The dangerous implication in that is that it will go soft since older buyers will not want a hard-edged compact sports car. More of a touring car. Unfortunately, it begins to sound like a Solara.

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Not much can be done about that - they are targeting a demographic that is likely to buy the car and other Toyota products, hitting loyal customers. Also hitting that age group that would have remembered when and actually driven the original inspiration for the FT86 came about. Also likely to keep insurance costs lower from some knucklehead drivers out there. Given that the median price of a new car is $25,500 - $23K is a good deal.
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im fine w/ the new pricing... only $26k for a loaded one. not bad at all. ^_^ And I fall in the age group so I'm all set. lol.

Now to pay off one of my rigs before this thing comes out.

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I only hope the turbo version "if it is produced" stays under or about 30k. I am soooo putting myself in debt once this beast comes state side!!!
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I don't like the fact that the price is nearing the price of entry-level 370Z, BMW 1-series and S2000. Couple of thousand less than these already successful cars won't appeal more to 40+ people who are not exactly Toyota or FT-86 fans.

Even for younger people(like me) there won't be much luck with picking up chicks while you're driving a "Toyota" compared to BMW.

Lower price tag and Subaru boxer engine can be good for sales anyhow.
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sadly, I would prefer the Genesis Coupe 2.0T over the FT-86 any day.
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i would rather have an ae86, this thing sucks. toyota needs to stop playing games and come out with a serious sports car. it's been 12 years or so since the supra left this world
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People need to stop basing their opinions of a car on things YEARS before it hits showrooms.

Wait until you can actually get one and they tell you what the price is to get what you want.

I will hold all judgment until I see the production version and I get an actual price on it, until then random stories from various news sources be damned, haha.

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I dont know guys, the supra wasnt really a hard edged sports car. more of a grand tourer for sure.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i want one i needs moneyz
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Consider something for a moment:

1991 MR2 base prices (calendar year 1990)
$15,488, base coupe
$18,778, base turbo
(t-bar roofs were slightly more)

Prices adjusted for inflation (2010, est.):
$25,870, base coupe
$31,365, base turbo

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

Remember that those are BASE prices without A/C, cruise control, or any power windows, doors, and mirrors.

So, nicely equipped, the 1991 MR2s were about $22,000 ($36,747) and $26,000 ($43,428) for the N/A and turbo, respectively. Today, that's quite expensive, but Toyota is still trying to give us a good car for around the same price TODAY. That's quite a feat, considering A/C, cruise control, power windows, doors, mirrors, stability/traction control, and 50 million air bags () are all standard equipment these days. Couple that with stricter emissions standards and it's surprising this car can be sold at around $23k base.

Don't pre-judge something based on someone else's opinion or Toyota's projected demographics.
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