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Old 03-09-2006, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking I'm buying a echo hatchback!!!

Hi there ppl! I'm Dan, new to this site, and I'm looking to buy a echo hatchback. I was wondering if 15000$ CAD is a good price for a echo RS 33k KM? And also, wat do I need to check for concerning defaults or characteristics of the echo HB? I know about the idle vibration when on drive... But any help would be really appreciated!

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Old 03-10-2006, 01:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dan my man trust me bud spend the extra money on the Yaris it’s a way better car totally redone its better on the highway less noisy drives better here I got a better idea take both out for a test drive than decide its more of a dent on your wallet but sometimes its better in the long run to spend the extra money YARIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Spend the extra cash you won't regret it
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Old 03-11-2006, 11:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah but i find it ugly!!
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ugly eh well I guess to each their own but Dan get over what you don’t like about the Yaris it is a way better buy way better buy don’t just look at the looks
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Hi there ppl! I'm Dan, new to this site, and I'm looking to buy a echo hatchback. I was wondering if 15000$ CAD is a good price for a echo RS 33k KM? And also, wat do I need to check for concerning defaults or characteristics of the echo HB? I know about the idle vibration when on drive... But any help would be really appreciated!

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$15.000 CND for an echo HB RS? what year? that's cheap, the only RS's I could find had wayyy more mileage and were all around $18K still. I decided to give up my search as they are way overpriced, everybody wants them, especially the RS and i'm not paying this much for such a small car. Where about in Canada are you?

And yeah, i'm not a fan of the yaris either, if I was you, i'd be all over that one.
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Old 03-13-2006, 04:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Make sure the campaign (floor) was done, (Toyota forgot to rustproof the cars before they sent them hear) otherwise you can have it done yourself(pretty sure Toyota is still offering this service)

As for the person saying the Yaris is soooo much better. …….

Granted it’s a bit quieter and smoother on the road but its also slower (heavier and with slightly different emissions controls) and it gets worse mileage / and it has an electronic throttle that doesn’t feel natural, like the ones that some other companies make- and it definitely does not feel as good as an old fashioned cable actuated throttle
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Are you sure there wasn't a problem with the 2. gen. Yaris you drove 3cyltrbo? I have not found any mentionable differences between the throttles in the cars.

The old Yaris (or Echo Hatchback for you from across the pond) is an excellent used car and much cheaper than the new Yaris.

It had very few issues. Be aware of rattles comming from behind the dash. These are not allways easy to locate and fix. Make sure the car has been treated for rust at least every 2. year if you live near the beach or in a cold climate. Make sure all the electrics works. They rarely fail (I have personally never seen a case), but there are a few recorded problems.

Apart from that there is really nothing to worry about. All parts of the suspension system, engine and gearbox are extremely tough. There is a reason why the old Yaris is one of the most reliable cars out there (Just take a look at any European dependability or satisfaction survey you can find).
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, the problem was it had an electronically actuated throttle body and I test drove a Manual. Very few manufacturers have mastered this linkage. I could feel the disconnect between my foot and the throttle body. OEM manufacturers have a long way to go before an electric motor or valve can accurately reproduce the direct connection between your foot / a cable / and the throttle butterfly.

Only a couple of cars I’ve driven with e-throttles have felt natural (I’m not alone btw, it seems to me that just about every car with an e-throttle that is tested by any magazine, they all complain about the same disconnected feeling)
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I'm used to the European Yaris' with 1.0, 1.3 and 1.4diesel, so there's not that much "Fingergefühl" with the throttle The most precise maneuvres I make with the throttle is when I hold the car for red light up a hill on the clutch and I can honestly not tell whether the throttle is electric or not.

The electric servo on the other hand is excellent adjusted in the new Yaris. Very light at slow speed and doesn't rob the feeling of the wheels when you need it - Now there's a place Renault could learn a lesson!
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Old 04-22-2006, 10:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well I finally called back to see if the HB 04 RS with 33k was there, and yes! SO we bought it 16394$ CAD taxes incl., I love this car now!!!
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Congrats on the new wheels.
I hope you enjoy it and get years of great driving.
I am waiting for my yaris to come in, I should have it by saturday.

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I am sorry to rain on your parade but $15000 for an Echo HB . Even if it is a 2005 it is a bit overpriced in my opinion. Have you ckeched the Red Book value of the car? It never stops to amaze me how people overprice Echo's. The HB Echo RS is valued at about $16,300 brand new. Echos depreciate by as much as 15-20% each year for the first three years. I personally would not pay more than 12,000 for a 2004 RS or 14,000 for a 2005. I have to second what others have said, for 15,000 I would put an extra $1,000 and get a brand new Yaris.

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Old 04-24-2006, 12:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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15,000 for an RS is a decent price. I sold my pristine garage-stored 2004 Echo Hatch RS with 30k and many extras like lowering springs, custom stainless dual exhaust, and AEM intake for just over 15,000 last summer...

Factoring in the initial cost of buying new, delivery, financing cost, and GST/PST and the price of an RS new is more than 16,300, more like 21,000...

15,000 plus PST for an RS is a good deal, and substantially less than a Yaris RS, which I now have...

Enjoy your new ride!

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Echo_hrs, this is where sellers get it wrong or may become just greedy. The cost of shipping, freight and taxes on brand new cars are not costs that can be factored in the price of a car when you decide to sell it. It is part of the cost of buying brand new. You decide to assume on those costs and it is plain unfair for sellers to try to pass those cost on to the buyers and idiotic for buyers to pay for them.

$15,000 for an Echo HB is a decent price only if it is a 2005 and certainly with less than 30,000 km. In fact, anything with more than 20,000 km, I would start deducting from the price.

Before anybody decides to buy or sell a car, please do your homework and check the "Red Book" for reference otherwise, you'll be wondering why nobody answered your add, if you are a seller and you'll kick yourself later on for having paid too much, if you are a buyer.

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