Three Door Yaris or Five Door Yaris that is the question???????????

[stuts]

Obviously deciding on either a three door or five door Yaris Hatch is what you prefer more but when I saw my first three door Yaris at the dealership the other day I was thanking my lucky stars that I bought a Five Door instead I am really posting this because I would like to find out from our American Friends what they would prefer and if they are upset that Toyota is only offering three door Yaris Hatch in the U.S. do some of you think you will come to Canada and order a five door

[jdgriswald]

Originally Posted by stuts

Obviously deciding on either a three door or five door Yaris Hatch is what you prefer more but when I saw my first three door Yaris at the dealership the other day I was thanking my lucky stars that I bought a Five Door instead I am really posting this because I would like to find out from our American Friends what they would prefer and if they are upset that Toyota is only offering three door Yaris Hatch in the U.S. do some of you think you will come to Canada and order a five door

As far as my feelings towards Toyota, I couldn't be more disapointed. On top of making us wait an additional six months for the car, we get a completely watered down version. No comparison to what Canadians can get, not to mention the european options. Sticking us with the 3-door will hurt sales no doubt especially when they half-ass it. Not even an easy-enter front seat that just tilts for rear access? Come on Toyota pull your head out of your collective arses. I don't care if the 5-door competes with the Scion xA....let it! The xA is getting stale style-wise, and doesn't sell well in comparison the rest of the Scion lineup. Let it die already.

Rant done.

As far as purchasing in Canada.....a pain.

Toyota Canada won't provide certification paperwork unless registered in Canada for six months. Won't be able to find a dealer to sell a new one anyway. 2.5% duty since not NA made. High sticker price on top of crappy exchange rate. Doesn't make sense in the end to pay around 19k U.S.

[IFCAR]

I assume Toyota's plan is to give the US redesigns of the xA and xB fairly soon, so the Yaris 5-door would become redundant then.

[ECHOKnight2000]

Also remember, as much as many of you wish for a 5-door (for the U.S. market, which is legit) not only as stated before will it compete with the xA, America GENERALLY speaking looks down on hatch..er liftbacks. Anyway that's one reason why we get the "waterdown" version, there's just no market here and demand, doesn't make buisness sense. Besides our culture of "Big is better" it also has to do with our geographical set up-meaning we have this big vast land with highways stretching from east to west where's most countries in Europe and Asia are small so naturally people will gravitate towards it-gas prices have to do with it as well-I'm just generalizing as there are other factors. But as time goes on things might change especially since gas prices are going up as well as competition-Toyota might change its mind, remember Toyota usually follows what others are doing as far as entry of a car and see how there's does and then decide to put their (Toyota) in or not-generally. Eventhough I don't plan on getting a Yaris (as much as I want one!!!) from pictures, at first I liked the 5 door better but now I like the 3 door, then again I haven't seen the 5 door in person, and obviously its more "practical" than the 3 door. Both are nice. I'll shut up now.

[jdgriswald]

I agree, but with Chevy having sold a ton of Aveos, maybe the mindset is changing (incentives and giveaways aside). I think the big factor is going to be the sales of the Fit. If it goes over big, maybe Toyota will rethink the 5-door for U.S.

BTW the 5-door is much nicer in person. Roomier than the xA, and a fresher interior.

[stuts]

Yo so EchoKnight2000 just to let you know before I go on here in the Yaris vs Fit forum my post got deleted but I just wanted to say I agreed with you on everything you said on page 3 and 4 in the forum about a certain individual I did respond but unfortunately my post got deleted because it was not nice anyways so just with your first comment EchoKnight2000 Americans don’t like Hatches eh WOW I did not know that I new you guys were not big fans of small cars and cars but I did not think their was a general hate for hatches but ohwell hopefully that will change sooner rather than later I agree with everyone who posted in this forum I think it is a Joke that Toyota America did not come with the Five door version it upsets me as they could of I am sure got more buyers for the Yaris for me the Five door just offers a little more convenience I know when I would put down the back seat in the test drive it was harder for me to pull up the back seat because of my height so I would go and use the back door to push it up (and Yes I have muscles lol I guess i was just weak that day ) I am sure at this time in my life I would have been happy with a three door but I kind of looked down the road because I plain on having this car for awhile so I felt the Five was the better choice now I must go and look and see about this Scion car that you guys have down their U.S. as I don’t know much about it

[stuts]

Hey guys I quickly checked out the Scion aaaaaaaaaaa do you really like that????????? The car seems to be okay feed back would be nice because like the Fit the Hatch looks Fugly unless I looked at the wrong hatchback also for some of you that dont know their has been a pretty big discussion about Fugly/Fit in the Yaris vs Fit forum so I figured I would just put this website down just scroll down a bit on the page and you will see two heading about Fugly/fit I have yet to read just thought I would post it


http://www.canadiandriver.com/index3.htm

[ECHOKnight2000]

Hey stuts I know a lot, just reading from posts at various forums people don't care for the Scion xA basically for its looks-I'm generalizing so I'm not saying everyone. Anyway everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion. I personally like the xA...when it first came here (U.S.) I was more interested and like it better than the boxy xB (probably cause I like hatchbacks). I sat in one and I liked it a lot, although the way they laid out the center spedo, it seemed too far pushed back (meaning further from the driver) and small, but then again I don't own the car so maybe its one thing you'll have to get use to if you were getting the car. Unlike a lot of people I don't mind the center sped set up-people are allowed to have their own opinions but some people (as I've read in forums) have an outrage and anger of center spedo's. I think its funny, obviously it shouldn't bother me personally cause I have an ECHO-anyway sorry, that's getting too off topic. As much as I would like to have both if I had to make a choice to have an xA or Yaris? YARIS!!!!!

[stuts]

Sorry this is a really stupid post not that I don’t agree with you EchoKnight2000 for some stupid reason I thought you were EchoHolik anyways I just wanted EchoHolik to know that I agreed with him on what he said in the Yaris vs Fit on page 3 and 4 sorry I needed to clear that up lol

[stuts]

I hope what Jdgriswald said is true I hope Americans are starting to realize bigger is not better but why is it that Americans love their big huge vehicles I don’t understand do they love paying like a 100 bucks to fill the big Suvs or the Big V8 engines here in Canada we have some of those people of course but we definitely are more cars than anything so why is it guys what is it about the U.S. compared to the rest of us also it would be a shame to see the Yaris Hatch only last for a couple years in the U.S. lets hope that does not happen

[ECHOKnight2000]

Hey Stuts, this is my educated guess on why "Americans" like big at least more than the rest of the world generally speaking. Here's my general take on it. Its part of our national heritage for the most part-meaning the great frontier, owning big land. Also especailly during the 1990's (and yes before that) SUPER sizing was in. Yes its still in, but I think that fever has died down a little. Also there's a misconception of not only "big is better" but also safety. A lot of people are mis-informed about safety. They only get the general sense of if its bigger than it must be safer. Well yes and no but I'm not going to get into that cause that's another thread. I bet you minivans can hold as much as an SUV, for the most part, yes an SUV can tow a lot more but how many soccer moms are towing a boat to the mall or store? And really, in America at least it seems one person per SUV is the rule-well I'm not going to get on my soap box. Everyone has a right to choose what they like even if its not "practical" for their specific needs (and that's what is great about this nation...or is it?), yes I realize you won't maximize your car/trucks potential all the time but its come to the point where you might as well buy stuff you won't use or use to accomedate what it was intended for. Along with big, that's why especially with GM, its new '07 SUV's are a big deal, not only literally but also the fact that's GM's profit making product-which is their down fall cause they rely on a single product where's most other companies are flexible and have a more rounded car line up and adapt to market changes better i.e. Toyota, Honda and Nissan. Well that's my rant, sorry its kinda too off topic, but I thought I anwser your question. Hope that helps somewhat!

I agree I hope the hatch stays more than 2 years! I think it will...gas prices!

[stuts]

Ya I hear ya their EchoKnight2000 with everything you said it made me laugh this past weekend on 60 mins the show on CBS I am sure you know it anyways they did a section of the show on GM and the problems facing it right now GM still does not get it the only thing the representative from GM said that I thought was relevant was the need to work more on the design for their vehicles I did not hear anything about Hybrids nothing on better fuel economy for their vehicles nothing just goes to show you why the profit for GM last year was 2 or 3 billion and Toyotas was 10 BILLION now I have heard GM really wants to be the leader in the Hydrogen revolution stuff but why not jumb on the band wagon right now with the Hybrids get people to start thinking different about GM I am all about supporting North America but it just does not seem that the North American Auto Makers get it yet I know Ford is trying anyways I hope Gas Prices go up even higher this summer really get people thinking I HOPE also with the Bigger cars being safer if people actually new you know the Smart Cars that is out I read that it is like the safest vehicle out their right now or one of the top Safest vehicles