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Old 08-29-2005, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyota.com USA 2007 Yaris now on the site!!!

Looks like the US gets it folks!!!

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yaris.html
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Old 08-29-2005, 10:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Toyota's lineup is changing. It's a shame the Celica didn't get to be sold along side it. For noglastia reasons.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Pretty nutty.
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Needs a sharper looking front end.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think I like the outgoing model Vitz better. It was more sporty looking from the front. Wonder if they'll decide to do the turbo Vitz too...
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Old 09-13-2005, 02:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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so the question is...

xA or Yaris? hmmmm.
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Old 09-13-2005, 02:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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so the question is...

xA or Yaris? hmmmm.
I think you hit the mark!
Scion already has said that will not wait 5year gen cycles to update their cars. I would bet that Xa is going the be scrapped to be replaced with Yaris IMO!
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Seems like it should be a Scion in the US, and that would be fine with me becuase it would likely be priced lower than if it were badged a Toyota.
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Old 09-13-2005, 04:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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So the US doesn't get it till next year while Canada gets it now.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I thought they weren't gonna have hatches in the states anymore?

I agree with 89Cel - the nose is too round
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Old 09-15-2005, 02:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think it looks great... but main concern now adays is what will the Fuel Economy be? Hopefully it will be better than a Corolla, and be cheaper than the Corolla CE. the problem with the Echo before was that after discounts, I could get a Corolla CE auto cheaper than I can get an Echo Auto and the fuel economy isin't any better than the Corolla... so why would people buy an Echo if it's more expensive and not any better fuel economy wise and get's less HP and has less space compared to the Corolla.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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^^^ No, you DO get better fuel economy if you're comparing (let's say auto-transmission) base Echo and Corolla pound-for-pound (pun-intended, you'll see why).
- First of all, the base Echo is not more expensive, unless there're some places or dealerships scams I don't know about.
- Yes it has less space, which is obvious and self-explanatory size-wise anyway, but can still sit 2 full-size adults in the back seat comfortably, if not more comfortable than the Corolla's backseats.
- It does have less HP, but it really doesn't need more HP (the keyword here for most of us who have the need for speed is WANT more HP, since we never really NEED more HP). It has more than adequate amount of HP (can take the car up to 180km/h or 100mph, which is more than enough), and good torque to go with (I can cruise around in 5th gear manual all day in city traffic without the car breaking a sweat, it WILL be obviously slow but will pickup speed if throttle is smashed to the floor). And keep in mind, you use what you need, and the fact is that more HP equals more fuel consumption, period.
- Last but not least, one of the main reasons why an Echo will always get better fuel economy compare to a Corolla is the issue of WEIGHT, which the Echo has less. Less weight means less power required to move the car to speed, which in turn saves more fuel than a heavier car. Another side-benefit is better handling. Just put the same driver (of good driving or racing skills) in each car (with same or similar tire and fuel qualities) for some laps on a track (with not too many long straights), and the Echo WILL pull a quicker lap time. It's just plain physics.

Now keep in mind, you should get a type of car based on your needs. If you have a family (a wife with 3 small children or 2 teenagers per say), it'd probably be best to get a Corolla. Plus you get a decent size trunk to haul "stuff." If you're single and need to drive to places frequently but won't want to worry too much about fuel-costs and other costs such as maintenance and such, the Echo hatchback will more than suit your needs. Trust me, it HAS plenty of room for 4 people, or enough room for just 1 passenger while hauling a 27" CRT television (WITH the box which is BIGGER than the TV itself) in the back with the rear seats folded down. Try doing that with an older gen Civic hatch (the EG6 gen for example) and I bet the box wouldn't even clear the hatch opening, which will require the TV to be taken out of the box.
To add to that, there's always a matter of PREFERENCE, which is irrational but equally justifiable nonetheless. If the Echo meets your needs but you still want a Corolla for whatever reasons, you might as well get the Corolla, plain and simple, since that's what you wanted.

I hope the above will MORE THAN answer your questions, and apologies for spewing out so many words without knowing it, but hopefully you get the idea in the most objective way possible (with a hint of bias of course, guess it's somewhat an unescapable flaw of being a human )


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Old 09-29-2005, 01:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Looks like the US gets it folks!!!

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yaris.html
Okay now, seriously, I know I will sound like a whining bitch to some, but this is SO UNFAIR!!! The US already gets the Scion cars and now they're getting the Echo hatcback (oops I meant Yaris) too? Which WAS the only car that's supposedly exclusive to us Canadians!!
The only remedy to this is to (REALLY TOYOTA'S MARKET-MANAGEMENT: LISTEN UP!!!) bring Scion to Canada!!! You (not TNers) dumbfucks have NO FUCKING IDEA how many Canadians actually wanted to buy Scions!!! HOW LONG DO YOU WANNA MAKE US WAIT UNTIL THE SCION LINEUP IS BROUGHT OVER HERE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD????

(Disclaimer: sorry folks, I was already pissed about us not getting the Scion and now the states getting the Yaris is just adding insult to injury. So I HAVE to rant about this. Peace.)
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Scion is coming to Canada, relax.
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Cry me a river..... We get jack for 2dr hatches: Fuckus or Shitvic

Wish the Yaris had more power though, it won't be able to keep pace wth either of the above mentioned craptacular cars.
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