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Old 11-15-2011, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Remote Start with Fortin by pass

Hi all,

I decided to go with an aftermarket remote start and choose a Compustar one button remote start & the Fortin key-by-pass module for my installation. Now I don't know where to find the Accessory wire since on Fortin website wirecolor they don't mention about it in their chart. Does any body know which wire is the Accessory wire ? Is this wire neccessary to complete the installation ? I only want the remote start function and can careless about the unlock/lock function since I can still use the OEM remote keyless entry. Any help is welcome !!

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Old 11-15-2011, 04:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I decided to go with an aftermarket remote start and choose a Compustar one button remote start & the Fortin key-by-pass module for my installation. Now I don't know where to find the Accessory wire since on Fortin website wirecolor they don't mention about it in their chart. Does any body know which wire is the Accessory wire ? Is this wire neccessary to complete the installation ? I only want the remote start function and can careless about the unlock/lock function since I can still use the OEM remote keyless entry. Any help is welcome !!

Thanks so much,
GK
Does OEM keyless entry work while engine is running? Mine doesn't (Limited). Seems to think "Hey, it's running, someone must be inside". Or maybe that's just to lock -- I haven't tried unlock (since it mostly won't lock while running, unless I play games with windows).
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't think the OEM keyless work while the engine running, I think I'll need to turn off the remote start before they OEM keyless working again
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Accessory = BLUE + in the ignition switch harness

I will need to confirm with my installer but if you go with a aftermarket alarm/remote start/keyless entry, then you should be able to lock and unlock using the aftermarket remote.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, I installed the system last night for 5 hours, and I can lock the door, but the unlock doesn't work, I guess I have to use the single pulse wire (I am using the unlock 2 pulse wire). Also, the remote start 3 times and keep turn off on itself, seem like it turn on and then the car turn itself off. I hope this is not a dealership programming that prevent remote start. I was going with tachless at first but then tried to move to the tach sensing installation, but I'm stuck with a one button remote that can't change the option of the Compustar So close yet so far, I hope anyone can help me overcome this last step, I don't want to spend money for the dealership or a shop to fix this problem since I already did all the work

I'll update pictures once everything work and complete
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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ok , do have learn tach signal ? wich model compustar you have installed? the tach signal for sienna is in the obd2, plug pin 9, yellow.


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Old 11-17-2011, 11:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have the one button CS601-S Complete System along with the Fortin Key-all bypass. I'm still waiting for my order of the 4 button remote to come in so I switch the option to tach-sensing .

I hope that it's not the Fortin bypass that not working right. I can lock/unlock now along with light and horn. The only problem left is the van can't start.

The 1st start the engine run for 1 second and then shutdown, the next 2 tries the engine crank but then it sound like the fuel has been cut-off and it won't even start and the electronic cut off. So I hope this is not because the OEM alarm kick in and prevent the remote start.

Any help is welcome, my 4 buttons remote won't be here until Saturday
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ok wich bypass used in your car? if you have a little 'g' stamp on your key you need a keyoverride-all or evo-all. both use imi imo wiring in fuse block. try your remote starter with key in ignition but leave off and unplug fortin bypass, try remote starter if start ok you have problem with bypass. if your remote starter is in tach mode you need a tach learning for compustart learn signal.


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Old 11-17-2011, 04:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tip, I'll try it, but which wire should I need to disconnect the Fortin Key-Override-All module and keep the remote start working ? Is it the i-link one ? or everything on the bypass ?
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You need unplug 4wires plug to make test. Dont forget sienna have 2 ignitions wires. If you need diagram go to ifar.ca go to search box write fsa-206 scroll down you will see sienna 2011 regular key .diagram is for fortin remote starter but make a good pics for any
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OK update:

I haven't tried to remove the bypass module yet but I found out something new.

I plug in the key, press the remote start, it was successfully start the van on the 2nd tried. Then I can unplug the key and it still running. Also when I press on the brake, it will stop the engine.

So... I think the bypass module wasn't program successfully. Cause the immobilizer light still flashing without the key in the van. I will do more test tomorrow.
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I remember installing a bypass module a few years back but the module needed the grey rfid key to be physically installed in the module. Is that the same case with the fortin? Maybe I'm old school but have you checked to see if you need to put the rfid key into the module?
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Lightbulb I got it working !!!

Ok It was my falult. I got it now, I was putting the white and white/black wire wrong to the IMI (purple line) - wrong end of the cut so that why the bypass wasn't working. I swap them around and it's working now. Everything working and I can say with the instruction from Fortin it was a pretty easy job, just have to be very careful with the instruction and double/triple check everything I'll put up some picture later incase someone want to do this too !!! Altogether cost me $60 (Compustar set) + $41 (Fortin Bypass) = $101 and I learn a very valuable lession.
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I remember installing a bypass module a few years back but the module needed the grey rfid key to be physically installed in the module. Is that the same case with the fortin? Maybe I'm old school but have you checked to see if you need to put the rfid key into the module?
The new one from Fortin doesn't need a key, it learn the code from the key and it's working great now. I'm buying another one for setting up my friend car now .
Thanks everyone for your help !!!
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good news your remote starter finaly works if you needs others infos for remote starter ask me i'm installer and i have lot of experiences in many cars. if your sienna have power sliding doors you can use the trunk button to open. work great for me


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