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Originally Posted by thoots
The reports about dealership nightmares are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
BEWARE -- BEWARE -- BEWARE -- BEWARE -- BEWARE -- BEWARE -- BEWARE!!
Listen to what has been written. "They have to take down the headliner." You bet.
So, how do they do that?
Well, it's held up there by your pillar posts, by the front overhead panels, and so on.
The bottom line is very simple here:
THEY HAVE TO TAKE YOUR ENTIRE INTERIOR APART in order to get in there. They may even wind up taking out the seats, in order to get in there so they can do something.
NEVER, EVER IN A FREAKING MILLION BILLION YEARS will they get that put back together as well as it was when it came out of the factory. Especially with the time constraints of doing warranty work.
This is the proverbial "do it yourself" job. Are you SURE it's the moonroof? Does it happen when the roof is open? Does it do it when the roof is closed? Might it only be the headliner? Might it be the "grab handles" above the doors? Check ALL of that out. Do what you can to try to mitigate things yourself. See that "trim ring" around the moonroof opening? It's just a soft piece of metal, wrapped in fabric, that you can try to "close more firmly" around the moonroof opening.
Open up the moonroof, and see if there's anywhere at the front end of the opening where you can put some cushioning weatherstripping or whatever. And so on.
But if you let your dealer TOUCH your interior, you are setting yourself up for a nightmare of rattles that you'll have to put up with so long as you own your car. Guaranteed. DO NOT LET THEM TOUCH IT!!!
All I can tell you is that I've learned it the hard way. Learn from my experience.
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Very funny post. Actually most of the techs that work on cars are much better the big fat Bob and Bill in good ole Kentucky(made the car) that have no education and got hired to put round pegs in square holes. Jesus wake up and smell the coffee it was stupid assembly workers that should of been pig farmers that messed this up!
These people that try and fix it are trained and make alot more than those morons that screwed it in the making. Toyota should of kept it being made in japan i guess. All the master mechs where I take my car are very well trained and know what they are doing. Yes they make mistakes but we all do.
Never forget this problem started with the maker in Kentucky. An do you want to take apart a car under warranty? That is crazy. Yes not under warranty do it, and if you have no idea what you are doing?
Oh and sorry you had such misery with a dealer, maybe find a better one.
It all comes down to us being screwed over and we need to stick together and complain in the right places.
Sadly I have no reason to not believe your lack of faith in your dealer, to many like that. An it saddens me. But just think of what you said in how complicated it is? A person with no training doing that will do it better? Ignoring any warranty?