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Old 01-02-2012, 08:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maintenance on 2012 camry SE 4 Cylinder

Just purchased a 2012 SE 4 cylinder. The toyota dealer says oil changes are every 10,000 miles. I think that is nuts...Anyone that has had a 2012 4 cylinder for a bit, how often and what kind of oil will you use...Thanks
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you'll get the 10K and 20k free but the ones in between are on you

me, 5k oil changes for now. not sold on the 10k thing. i am not qualified to make an expert opinion here, just simple insurance on my car. at this point I am not a believer on the 10k lof.
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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10k for me and I'm hanging onto the service records. Toyota already had a major sludge problem, I don't think that they would risk another.
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Old 01-02-2012, 10:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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toyota had sludge issues on older 2.2 motors and only if owner was using cheap oil and didn't change it in time.
I had 2001 2.2 camry from 33K till 120K. 5-30 full synthetic Valvoline Synpower every 9-10K didn't have any problems.
used same oil for 2007 2.4 camry too-no issues.
toyota issued same 10K intervals on many 2010 and up models including 2.5 camry.
I see no problems with 10K intervals on 2012 camry.
any brand name synth. oil good for at least 15K and good oil will last up to 20K but I wouldn't go that long.
as soon as I'll run out of free oil changes I'm going back to Valvoline Synpower 0-20 as far as I know Synpower and Mobil 1 0-20 synth. are two best oils on the market.
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last gen 4 cyl. camry has a T-SB on oil consumption. (current available t-sb)
the fix is new pistons, reengineered. 3 select fit sizes available based on cylinder wear.
take out (bad) pistons have sludge / oil residue contaminating the oil control rings. the engine then develops oil consumption issues. If i remember the updated pistons have larger oil drain holes and are designed to not accumulate oil / sludge on the piston oil rings. With dealer records the manufacturer can and is goodwilling this on cars "that are out by miles".

soooooooo. ..........we are not completely out of the sludge days, not 100%.

sorry, but for me its a 5k interval. hey its a preference right?
5 years from now there will be thousands of camry owners that did the 10k thing and others that did 5k, all probably just as happy as the other. time will tell.

for me its not the "can the oil hold" question, its all the other little details that have not yet surfaced. if a 5k interval dealer serviced 4 cyl camry comes in at 110K burning 1 qt oil every 500 miles anything is possible. the T-SB addresses the oil burners as I have witnessed firsthand.
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^. not a toyota tech but never heard about sludge on gen.
6 oil consumption-yes. sludge-no.
and gen 6 had 5K intervals.
plus, gen 6 and gen 7 engines are different. toyota changed gen 6 2.4 to 2.5 on gen 6.5.and increased intervals to 10K -and it's a in many ways different motor. gen 7 got updated gen 6.5 motor.
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Do the 5K interval on your own and 10K intervals at the dealers

like rotate between you and the dealers every 5K .... doing ever 5K is good protection for your vehicle if you're planning to keep it for a long time
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Thanks all for the good information!!
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10k intervals have been used for decades now with synthetic oil. It's nothing new. It's been tried, done, and proven to work. There is no scientific evidence substantiating any claim that 10k intervals will result in engine problems as opposed to 5k. Just about all general tests and specific Used Oil Analyses I've read over the years have indicated that 10k intervals were just fine.

Mercedes runs 13k, BMW 15k, Porsche anywhere in between. So why can't a Toyota?
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why cant toyota?
when toyota can make a water pump that will make it out of warranty I'll be sold on all the rest!
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If the car has a large oil sump, say 6 quarts or so and the recommended oil is synthetic, then 10000 mi really should be a non-issue because the oil works better and there is more oil to dilute the contaminants.

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^. not a toyota tech but never heard about sludge on gen.
6 oil consumption-yes. sludge-no.
and gen 6 had 5K intervals.
plus, gen 6 and gen 7 engines are different. toyota changed gen 6 2.4 to 2.5 on gen 6.5.and increased intervals to 10K -and it's a in many ways different motor. gen 7 got updated gen 6.5 motor.
The Gen 6, 2.4L, has 7500mi intervals. The 5000mi interval is for severe service.
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Does the gen7 use synth or Dino oil from the factory?
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Does the gen7 use synth or Dino oil from the factory?
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I used 10K/synthetic on my '04 once warranty expired. It had long trips, maybe I'd shorten it a little if they were short trips. The engine was spotless looking into oil fill.

On my new one I'll monitor condition of dipstick above oil level for varnish as well as what I can see in the oil fill. I drive shorter trips now. If these parts are not staying spotless I'll increase the frequency a bit. Even though a little varnish in an engine tends to be harmless.

Water pump original when sold at 135K.

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Big water pump problems have been on the 1.8 from the Corolla and the 2.4 from the Camry and Rav4. The Camry has had the 2.5 since 2010 and I haven't seen many water pumps go bad early.

I also have a 2011 Camry that requires 0w-20 and I run 10,000 mile or once a year intervals. Oil has improved, engines have improved, we aren't in every 3000 mile territory anymore
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