Originally Posted by magnumrtawd
I just spent 30-k for a new xle and was appalled when the dealer wanted 1-k for extended warranty.
We just sold a 02 Chry. Sebring with 67-k that had a 19.95 oil change and tire rotation every 3-k and never had a problem or went back to the dealer for anything.
I thought Toyota was a higher quality auto and shouldn't need all of the extra service.
Maybe I should have stuck with Mopar.
The maintenance program is different from the extended warranty.
I'd look at depreciation ........ not the cost of oil changes ........ when figuring out the true cost of ownership. Most Chrysler cars have very low resale value compared to comparable model Toyotas. For example,
go to kbb.com and compare a comparably priced used ten year old 2002 model I4 Camry LE versus a comparable chryser sebring with 67,000 miles. Though both cars cost about the same when new, the Private Party resale values are as follows:
Camry: $9,844. Sebring: $3,463. Difference: Over $6,000
Also, statistically ...... Toyota's have far better repair records than Chryslers. Look at the visual in the April 2012 Automotive issue of Consumer Reports magazine pages 86 to 96. Self explanatory.
Then look at page 84 & 85 of that same magazine and the article entitled "7 ways to avoid a lemon" On the used cars to avoid list, the Dodge/Chrysler list is about endless ...... while the Toyota list has only three vehicles.
Now, as for maintenance, look at your Camry owners manual vs one for the Chrysler 200 [which replaced the Sebring] which I just downloaded from the Chrysler website. Most notable is that oil changes and coolant changes are half as often on a Toyota.
Your appear to drive under 10,000 miles per year. Thus:
Chrysler: Mandatory SIX MONTH month interval with engine oil meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. You don't get this oil with your standard "el cheapo" oil change.
Toyota: Mandatory ONE YEAR interval with synthetic oil. [About $60 at dealer].
Air Filter & Cabin Filter:
Toyota: 30,000 miles/30 months - whichever is first
Chrysler: 32,000 miles/ 24 months - whichever is first
Toyota: 100,000 miles 10 years - whichever is first
Chrysler:104,000 miles 5 years - whichever is first
Toyota: 120,000 miles 12 years - whichever is first
Chrysler: 2.4L 32,000 miles 2 years - whichever is first; 3.6L 96,000 miles 6 years whichever is first
Toyota: No scheduled maintenance
Chrysler: 96,000 miles 72 months whichever is first
Well, and then there is gasoline:
Camry beats Chrysler 200 in both I4 & V6 versions as well as Consumer Reports magazine "real world" tests.
And here is the Consumer Repots take on the Chrysler 200 from page 46 of the April 2012 Automotive Issue:
The 200 is uncompetitive amoung family sedans ..... The noisey and unrefined, the 173 HP four gets only 21mpg, same as the V6. The six speed automatic transmission doesn't shift particularly smoothly ..... YADA YADA.
I had one mopar vehicle in my life, and this just confirms my feeling that I would NEVER buy another one.
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