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Old 06-05-2012, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spare tire - real or donut?

Two years after I purchased my 2003 Camry, I had a flat tire. I had to pull all the stuff out and change the tire. No big deal, but after I replaced all those items, there was a rattle in the trunk for the next few YEARS.

Which explains why I'm not ready to pull out the mats and inspect the spare tire in my shiny new 2012 Camry Hybrid.

I know the regular 2012 Camry has a full-sized spare, but what about the Hybrid? Full-size spare or a donut?

Does anyone know the answer off the top of their head?

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Tires and Wheels
Steel wheels
16 x 6.5 in. wheels
Steel spare wheel
P205/65R16 tires
All season tires
Inside mounted spare tire
Full wheel covers
Temporary spare tire
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Two years after I purchased my 2003 Camry, I had a flat tire. I had to pull all the stuff out and change the tire. No big deal, but after I replaced all those items, there was a rattle in the trunk for the next few YEARS.

Which explains why I'm not ready to pull out the mats and inspect the spare tire in my shiny new 2012 Camry Hybrid.

I know the regular 2012 Camry has a full-sized spare, but what about the Hybrid? Full-size spare or a donut?

Does anyone know the answer off the top of their head?

Rose
It's an interesting question because the online brochure says that all trims come with temporary spares. But in the manual (if I remember right) there are TPMS screens with 5 tires showing. My dealer said the only time you get 5 is if you have a full time spare.

http://www.toyota.com/byt4/2012/camr...plete_ebro.pdf
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The specifications say compact spare inflated to 60 psi. See page 480 and 481.

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Old 06-05-2012, 08:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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......But in the manual (if I remember right) there are TPMS screens with 5 tires showing. ...
The manual's TPMS screen shows 4 tire icons - and it's a donut spare.
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......there was a rattle in the trunk for the next few YEARS.

Which explains why I'm not ready to pull out the mats and inspect the spare tire in my shiny new 2012 Camry Hybrid. .....
Did you ever have anyone look into the rattle?
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Did you ever have anyone look into the rattle?
That's a whole 'nother topic.

In short, my 2003 Camry LE had a myriad of problems with rattles and squeaks. The dealer and I ended up in arbitration over that car, and the dealer finally gave me a "loaner" and they spent eight days disassembling the vehicle's interior trying to track down all the rattles and squeaks and noises.

They found pieces missing (body clips) and cables that had never been tied down and missing insulation and some other fishy stuff. They jokingly called it a "Monday" car.

I didn't think it was very funny. That car represented a MASSIVE financial investment to me.

When I got the car back, it was a lot quieter, but it still had more than its fair share of noises.

There was a persistent noise in the dash, and they said that they'd never be able to track that one down without creating MORE rattles. I believed them.

The 2012 seems much more put together. And this time, I bought the XLE, and thus far (2000 miles later), I'm real impressed with how quiet it rides.

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Wow! I'm surprised you bought another Toyota after putting up with all that rattling headache for 7 years or so.

BTW, I'm from your neck of the woods and went to ODU.
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The manual's TPMS screen shows 4 tire icons - and it's a donut spare.
Page 89 http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/docum...U/pdf/nn04.pdf shows 5 tires and one graphic/version shows spare.
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Page 89 http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/docum...U/pdf/nn04.pdf shows 5 tires and one graphic/version shows spare.
Weird - my car does not show that, does yours? I've never seen any options for a full size spare or TPMS for the donut.
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Weird - my car does not show that, does yours? I've never seen any options for a full size spare or TPMS for the donut.
Dealer says it's only on cars with full size spares. But if that's the case then who has a full size spare? Apparently nobody.

It must have been part of the salesman training too because mine said I should check the spare if the warning light comes on since it's usually the spare that looses pressure.

So I call "weird" on this one too.
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Weird - my car does not show that, does yours? I've never seen any options for a full size spare or TPMS for the donut.
I've got the 2012 Camry XLE Hybrid, and I have FOUR cute little tires in the display NOT five.

"Weird" is right.

And now I really am wondering what size my spare is!!!
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.......

And now I really am wondering what size my spare is!!!
Fine! Be that way ......
Wheels:
Regular wheels: 17 7 J
Compact spare wheel: 17 4 T

Tires:
Regular tires: P215/55R17 93V
Donut tire: T155/70D17 110M

Above is for 2012 Camrys with 17" wheels.

Interesting thing is that the Camrys with 16" and 18" wheels use the same
size spare wheel/tire as the cars with 17" wheels. The outer diameters of all the wheel/tires combinations are about 26", so it's all good.
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It would make a lot of sense for the Hybrid to use a compact spare. Toyota put the Camry Hybrid on a significant Weight Watchers diet for 2012. Don't tell the car there is a big donut in the trunk! They were obviously out to capture best in class fuel efficiency, and I believe they did -- just. Looks like they may be in trouble for 2013 though, as Ford has promised to blow them away for fuel efficiency with the 2013 Fusion Hybrid. Ford is going with a smaller ICE, and use Toyota Synergy Drive technology, so I suspect they will do it.

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Some cars these days don't even come with a spare donut, just a can of fix-a-flat and an air compressor.
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