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Toyota Camry Gen 8 (2016+) - your wish list
I know we just got the gen 7 Camry, and I already talk about gen 8, but this is what I would expect to see when I trade in my XLE Hybrid in 5 years or so. Toyota did manage to build all features and what I wanted in a car very well. But here are some nice extra features I would hope Mr Toyoda willl consider (or the USA based design and marketing teams that got more freedome to decide from Toyota Japan):
1. Forget making a V6 in next gen. Go with the Hybrid base, but allow the combined power of both gas and electric to reach the full potential of almost 300 HPs (156HP gas, 141HP electric). This will require to get a bigger battery to allow it to provide a higher voltage and higher current for the 105KW electric engine drive for 2 minutes or so use. Perhaps LiIo at 3x capacity than what you have today and double the voltage so to stay within similar current, will do it. The optimization here is not just for power but, at the same time, for gas consumption. I like this much better than the Volt way, no need 16KWH battery. 5KWH will do just fine. High power is needed temporary, for 1-2 minutes, not continiously hence this is a way better balance than the V6 variations (including turning off 3 cylinders as in the Impala). This will reduce the different number of models by eliminating the V6 one and hence reduce your cost to make such further.
2. plug in request goes without saying. As you learn from the Prius Plug In, port the technology to Camry, 5KWH will do just fine with extended efficency and an OK EV range without huge cost or volume taken by the battery (I still want the 5 seats not the 4 as with Volt). Plug in is not the main issue, but if you make it why not.
3. tires is a problem to select. The sport version of Camry Hybrid "SE" should be tuned for peformance as is now, but select better grip tires to allow 300HP acceleration. The gas consumption savings oriented model, can keep with low friction tires, though in winter and in snow, one would appreciate the better grip.
4. gas engine can be further optimized with direct fuel injection, but do not do it if this takes off the reliability. We do not want a Sonata/Kia, we want a Camry
5. Entune should allow an option to refelct applications running on the ipad/iphone and show the immage on the LCD screen in the car. Interacting with some useful statistics the car computer provides and uploading such or collecting such in a file. I am sure you have already telemetry to report various cars situation and operation that may suggest faults, through the cell phone connections so you can quickly tune your production and design for possible faults (but please ask the customers permission to allow you to access such data from their cars)
6. You may consider publishing Entune interface for independent application writers to use similar as with iPhone store. You will be supprized at the wealth of applications that can be invented.
7. Please please allow a moonroof delete in all trim levels. I have no issue with any other options, but moonroof really is not that useful for many Camry users, other than trying it few times and then leaving it closed.
8. If you really can close the gap between hybrid and non hybrid, consider offering a hybrid only model providing the relaiability of the battery is well under control, learning from the experience you had so far. If a car can last 15 years, this is way better than what GM used to design cars during the 1990s... and most people I would assume will not hold cars over 10 years (those who buy new), with average of 5 years or so. That will also raise the fuel savings and allow you to meet the average MPG goals set by the president in the USA.
9. allow the hybrid to act as a power generator to provide electricity in an emergency. We had various disasters in the USA with power out for at least 24 hours or so. I know you consider a future vision in Japan to connect a Prius to generate power for homes if needed, so I think you can design it without too much cost to do that in gen 8 hybrid. Of course, some add on will be needed outside to connect it to the home, but this will be at the option of the home owner so you just provides the connection for it and the added cost should someone want to have it can be within the rapid recharge and power distribution station in the garage to connect to the house power. Just this feature alone will be a very nice welcome for the USA use. Where can yuo get a 100K or even 50K generator as reliable as a Camry... when needed (which wont be all the time but if needed will be priceless to run the sump pump, and other essentials and save a home).
Other than this, please keep building good reliable affordable cars for all of us and thank you for gen 7 - well done!
Last edited by CamryHybrid2011; 10-24-2011 at 09:19 PM.