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True I appreciate everyone's input! As my brother works for Toyota I will have to test drive the i4 and get my mothers keys for her 2012 v6 Camry haha


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Also try out the LE Hybrid and see how that goes for you.
Why burn gas sitting in city traffic?

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My situation may not be the same as yours - I bought a new 2012 XLE I4 in my early retirement so there are usually 1-2 people in the car, the goal was primarily bought for highway driving. All my comparison vehicles when I was shopping were 4 cylinders, but I had a peppy Chrysler V6 so I knew what I was letting go.

I've driven the Camry for 13 mons & 14,400 mi and been very satisified essentially getting the 25/35 EPA MPGs but my average for over 6000mi since late summer is 30.5 (the EPA avg is 28). I could not make the Hybrid payback work for me nor did the dealer offer near the discount below his invoice or would I get the $500 Edmonds rebate ... all that worked against the payback. That said I now am averaging more like 50/50 highway/city vs 80% highway I'd estimated. But you are not asking about that, purely I4 vs V6. As others above have said that's pretty much -if- fuel cost is a big deal (daily commuter with 1-2 passengers in non mountainous roads), get the I4. If you frequent lots of hills, freeway merges, passing on 2 lane roads (safety more than an issue than MPG gas cost), get the V6. I lived in western CT years ago so unless you are near the Berkshires or have a lot of straighter 2 lane roads than the curves I remember or have car poolers paying for gas, I think the I4 would be my choice.
Never understood why the hybrid option has to pay you back since it is a performance boost over the i4.

If he wants more power than the i4 and doesn't want to lose money on gas, the hybrid makes perfect sense.
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I have the I4 hybrid and am perfectly happy with it. It is about half way between the conventional I4 and the V6 for power and acceleration performance. And there is no comparision in gas mileage to either. The hybrid matches the Ford Fusion Titanium Turbo for 1/4 mile speed, and gets nearly double the fuel mileage.

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if you're 90% main city driving. hybrid is the best bet. mixed bust mostly stop n go. 4 cyl. 50/50. v6. imho.

12 camry se v6 256whp 231 ft lbs.
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might consider a bicycle instead if traffic really is that bad.
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Oh no traffic isn't bad what so ever but my job is 10min away and so is my girls house so I don't go to far haha


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wait for new corolla? why you want camry? looks? room? power?
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^ wait, how is the I4 more fun than V6? According to Toyota I4 and V6 have the same curb weight. I had to select SE V6 vs SE I4 and both are 3240lbs.

Also Camry is heavier than Corolla. Best is go test drive.
Handling is better on the I4 vs the V6 because it's not as nose-heavy. Point it into a corner, the front tires don't give in as easily because they're not being asked to put down a ton of power and steer a lot of weight.

I'm perfectly happy with the I4 after owning a V6 and turbo 5 in the past. It's more than enough for city driving and it's fine doing 75-80 on the highway. Highway passing power is a bit lackluster, but a good stomp straight to the floor for that extra downshift will get the Camry up to 5000 RPM and moving in a hustle. It has to work harder than the big, lazy V6, but that's worth it for the extra MPG it gets.

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If you're used to 4, I'd stick with that. It's got more power than the Corolla so that's an upgrade right there. If you're used to having more power, go with the v6
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Handling is better on the I4 vs the V6 because it's not as nose-heavy. Point it into a corner, the front tires don't give in as easily because they're not being asked to put down a ton of power and steer a lot of weight.

I'm perfectly happy with the I4 after owning a V6 and turbo 5 in the past. It's more than enough for city driving and it's fine doing 75-80 on the highway. Highway passing power is a bit lackluster, but a good stomp straight to the floor for that extra downshift will get the Camry up to 5000 RPM and moving in a hustle. It has to work harder than the big, lazy V6, but that's worth it for the extra MPG it gets.
both the 4 and 6 se's nose dive at the same rate. the v6 had a slightly higher skipad rating at .83g's vs the .81 of the 4 cyl.

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both the 4 and 6 se's nose dive at the same rate. the v6 had a slightly higher skipad rating at .83g's vs the .81 of the 4 cyl.
Ah, but they didn't test the I4 SE Special edition with the 18" tires. There's a noticeable difference
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I have to say the 6. I drive 60/40 highway. I average 26-27 mpg . If I drive straight highway 28-29. I like to have fun and have a heavy foot.this engine is far from big and lazy as jblackburn points out. I have kn filter and added magnaflow mufflers. This vehicle gets up and goes with great gas mileage.
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All Toyota engines are lazy and don't like to rev - the 4 cyl Camry/Corolla and 3.0 and 3.5 V6s anyway. They're tuned for low-end torque. It makes for great in-town power, but you really have to put your foot down to convince it to go past 3000-3500 RPM.

I much prefer this as opposed to a setup like Honda, which usually has great highway passing power but you have to rev the snot out of to get it going quickly.


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I4 seems to be the best bang for your buck, especially if your doing a lot of driving in rush hour traffic, my next suggestion would be the Hybrid LE with 43 mpg. Really you can't go wrong with either one of those, I bought the XLE Hybrid because I wanted all the extra gadgets and my wife and I are going to share the car.
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