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If you want more power than the I-4 but hesitant on the V-6, you should look into the Hybrid... It is pretty quick and you get great gas mileage to boot... IIRC, the V-6 scoots 0-60 in six seconds, the I-4 does it in 8.5 seconds and the Hybrid does it in 7 seconds...

I went with the Hybrid and get over 42MPG. I can go about 600 miles on a tank of gas... I drive 40 miles/day and i can go almost three weeks between fill ups...

I paid $26,000 for my 2016 SE... I really wished Toyota had the Hybrid in a XSE model as I really wanted the BSM and Homelink options...
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in my opinion that inline 4 cylinders power is perfect and also i should admit i have NEVER EVER DROVE ANY V6 in my 28 years of life lol, grew up with 4 cylinders kept up the roots of my late dad and just dealing with 4 cylinders
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If you want more power than the I-4 but hesitant on the V-6, you should look into the Hybrid... It is pretty quick and you get great gas mileage to boot... IIRC, the V-6 scoots 0-60 in six seconds, the I-4 does it in 8.5 seconds and the Hybrid does it in 7 seconds...

I went with the Hybrid and get over 42MPG. I can go about 600 miles on a tank of gas... I drive 40 miles/day and i can go almost three weeks between fill ups...

I paid $26,000 for my 2016 SE... I really wished Toyota had the Hybrid in a XSE model as I really wanted the BSM and Homelink options...
The gen7 vs 7.5 0-60 times are different:
Per MT 0-60 times:
2015 V6 -6.1 sec
2012 V6- 5.8 sec
2017 2.5- 8.5 sec (but imo it feels as fast as the 2012)
2012 2.5- 7.8 sec. (at least for the lightest LE)
2015 Hybrid 7.1 sec
2012 Hybrid 7.2 sec.

My buddy has a TCH and unless he drives like a lil'old lady his average stays below 30 MPG which is disappointing considering the extra $$$ he paid.
Also the gen 12-14' LE and TCH numbers look real. As many times we went 0-60, his TCH always been just1/2-3/4 of the body length ahead.

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I live on a community that is at the top of a long hill... It is a four mile drive up a 5 degree slope from sea level to 800 ft. Going to work in the morning the TCH averages 55-60 mpg and going home it averages 30-35 mpg. I don't drive aggressively but i do not consider myself to be a slow poke either.

My "big" worry is when I retire this year... My mileage will drop from 11,000 mile a year down to 2,000-3,000 miles. That means i will put gas every three months or so which is not good as gas tends to get gummy after a while... I guess i will have to put in only a half-tank when that times comes...
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I live on a community that is at the top of a long hill... It is a four mile drive up a 5 degree slope from sea level to 800 ft. Going to work in the morning the TCH averages 55-60 mpg and going home it averages 30-35 mpg. I don't drive aggressively but i do not consider myself to be a slow poke either.

My "big" worry is when I retire this year... My mileage will drop from 11,000 mile a year down to 2,000-3,000 miles. That means i will put gas every three months or so which is not good as gas tends to get gummy after a while... I guess i will have to put in only a half-tank when that times comes...
....or add a can of Techron occasionally

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....or add a can of Techron occasionally
Or: Stabil...it's not a cleaner, but, more of a stabilizer...hence, the name.
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I live on a community that is at the top of a long hill... It is a four mile drive up a 5 degree slope from sea level to 800 ft. Going to work in the morning the TCH averages 55-60 mpg and going home it averages 30-35 mpg. I don't drive aggressively but i do not consider myself to be a slow poke either.

My "big" worry is when I retire this year... My mileage will drop from 11,000 mile a year down to 2,000-3,000 miles. That means i will put gas every three months or so which is not good as gas tends to get gummy after a while... I guess i will have to put in only a half-tank when that times comes...
Doesn't meet your need than you should consider something else. You know, if it doesn't fit don't force it. Don't they have those bus come directly to your house to pickup the elderly?

Honestly I never will want to retire, that's boring. I rest when I'm dead, as long as I'm alive I'll keep kickin.
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I'd just go with the four. It's perfectly adequate. Sure it lacks the V6 punch, but it puts out what V6s did a generation ago. It gets better fuel economy and is most likely to be cheaper to maintain. The Camry isn't really a car to have fun with; it's a faithful tool where extra features (such as a V6) don't necessarily return a huge benefit. And I'll say it again: the four is perfectly adequate. You aren't hauling people or things around for a big percentage of your time, so the four makes sense.

If you're willing to pay the hybrid premium, it'll work well. Electric torque is intoxicating and despite my initial thoughts when the first Prius debuted, it's proven reliable. If you do a lot of highway driving, though, a hybrid isn't really worth it.

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I had to go with the V6 XSE. Coming from a 2015 Mini Cooper S model the I4 was just too slow. The V6 power was the only way I could buy this car. My ride before the Mini was a 400 HP late model GTO.

Nope can't do the I4.

But I have room for the grandkids now.
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It would seem that those who've driven v6 or v8 engine-power just wouldn't be happy with the i4....those who've driven mostly i4 engines seem content with their "power curve."

....like those of us who just can't pry our palms off the manual tranny....
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It would seem that those who've driven v6 or v8 engine-power just wouldn't be happy with the i4....those who've driven mostly i4 engines seem content with their "power curve."
couldn't have said it better. I totally agree with you.

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It would seem that those who've driven v6 or v8 engine-power just wouldn't be happy with the i4....those who've driven mostly i4 engines seem content with their "power curve."

....like those of us who just can't pry our palms off the manual tranny....
Yes and no. I've always had the i4 and drove v6 and v8 cars occasionally. I was more than happy with the 2.5, but bough the V6 just cuz the car was clean and price was right. My first 8-10 years of driving I drove mostly manual, but switched to the automatic with no regrets cuz of traffics and convenience of the automatic tranny.

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....like those of us who just can't pry our palms off the manual tranny....
I'm one of those. And I get to drive stick for a living

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Personally, I have a 2015 LE I4 @ 19k mi so far.
The I4 does an adequate job getting around both town and on the highway. I'm seeing ~26 mpg combined @ 85% city. On the highway it'll usually clock out 34.9 - 36mpg @ 70 mph depending on wind, or ~40 mpg @ 55 mph.

Do I wish I had the v6? Sometimes, but my budget didn't really permit it (in the sense of what I want to spend, with want << can spend).

It does help to occasionally be able to borrow my parents' 2012 SE v6 on occasion though =).

All in all, if budget permits, go with the 6. The on highway economy measured is nearly identical (measured by trip meter vs. gallons to refill tank).
If budget doesn't the 4 still does a fairly good job, and will spin up if you demand it (and finding the various kickdowns isn't difficult. I have it down to an art as to if I want a single, double, or triple kick down on the highway already =) )
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I came from a 2006 Civic and after researching I decided on the Camry XSE V6. The Civic was a great car, gave me 400K trouble free kms, but I was ready for something more substantial. For my life, the V6 made sense since most of my commute is at 125kms. I'm currently getting around 7.8l/100km (30mpg).

My advice would be test drive the 4, and if you like it, get it and save money! I tested both the 4 and 6. Once I drove the 6 I was struck by the quiet smoothness, the ready power, and just how effortlessly it cruised the highway. For me it was an easy decision after that.
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