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Old 01-12-2011, 12:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Transmission Fluid _ World Standard

Talked to the Toyota mechanic. He stated that the "100,000" mile synthetic "world standard" trans fluid for the Corolla should be changed around 30,000-50,000. He says the 100k thing is EPA BS. He said the fluid breaks down, collects debris and around 30,000 miles needs to be changed out or the longevity of the transmission will be shortened.

I went to the parts counter, it was $8 a quart for the stuff. He said I needed 3 quarts and a drain plug gasket.

Has anyone changed out their fluid as of yet? If so, does it take only 2.5 qts. to do a fluid change? Any torque specs on the drain plug?
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When you change AT fluid you never drain it all out unless you have them drop the pan & flush the transmission. The fluid change will only change out a little of the total fluid & that's why some people change it out often so that they keep the over all fluid quality a little better. If you look in the owners manual it should say how much total fluid the AT holds. The MT only hold 2 quarts!
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From my findings, I would listen to the mechanic on this one. I have changed mine out a couple of times now (I am at ~60K miles) and will do it again this summer. While the drain plug probably has some torque spec, I don't know what it is, I have always done it like the engine oil pan plug for tightness. Its a Allen head bolt, and it doesn't need a drain plug gasket. I always fill with the amount specified in the owners manual (2.5qts sounds right..can't recall ATM) via dipstick hole, never had an issue, and yes it takes very little WS-ATF as it is only half the entire sump, the rest is still in the torque converter and won't come out via simple drain.

SuperchargedMR2 is correct. And the money paid is nothing...about the same as a oil change, and its easier to do.
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I just had mine done this past week, the price was $270.00 also got the engine oil changed as well, and this was free since i was doing the trans, when I was told about the price , just do the engine and I find another location for the trans, I was told they test the oil for how hot it got etc.
all they have to do is drain and re-feill, also they had mentioned they there is no filter Hm.

Told my wife about it, she changed my mine and told them to do it. I did tell the advisor this is properly why they never do it the price itself scares people away.

When I got the car back while checking it on Sunday noticed there was an oil leak engine not trans, it appears the tech did not remove the bottom piece to get to the filter, and never did clean it up afterwards, the bottom piece had used engine oil floating on top, cleaned that as best, and they did not replace the battery + cover, and the windsheild cleaner bottle now has a leak, they fill it each oil change. I added some as well, and thats when I saw the leak. I had spoken with the service MGR about this they will check into this on Saturday

My XRS has approx 82K first time done, the trans works better it has a smoother downshifting then before.
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I changed the fluid. It was VERY EASY. Took 2.3 quarts. The fluid was very dark and I could see dirt in it.

I highly recommend changing it before 30,000 miles. It is easier to do than an oil change. Just don't forget to get the metal gasket when you buy the WS trans fluid.

I will probably change it again at the next oil change. Just to get more of the old fluid out. Since the trans holds almost 7 quarts of fluid. Doing the pan drains only removes 2 of those quarts.
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what metal gasket are you talking about? and is this on an auto or manual trans? i thought manuals only took 2 quarts
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yeah...what metal gasket???
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what metal gasket are you talking about? and is this on an auto or manual trans? i thought manuals only took 2 quarts
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yeah...what metal gasket???
He must be talking about the MT since it uses a metal gasket for both the drain plug & the fill plug. I personally have never changed those on any previous car I've owned & I've never had an issue.
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what metal gasket are you talking about? and is this on an auto or manual trans? i thought manuals only took 2 quarts
The auto trans has a metal drain plug gasket, just like the one the oil drain plug has.

It is an auto trans and they do have a metal drain plug gasket.
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Anyone feel like doing a DIY for this? I'll probably end up doing it soon, as I'm at about 25,000 miles.

Parents won't be too fond, but God knows I don't want to pay the bloody stealership to do it.
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Oh, drain plug washer. Gasket to me is something that goes ona a cover or pan, not a single bolt but that's just me.

I used the one that was on there over and over, never had a leak, and I have done this 3-4 times already.
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In my opinion mixing 2.5 quarts of new ATF with say 7 quarts of old ATF in the transmission is pointless.

When the weather gets warmer I will replace almost all of the fluid and the filter.
My plan is to...

1)Drain the fluid in the pan.
2)Remove the pan and replace the filter and gasket. (why does Toyota get $80 and Wix $20 for a filter)
3)Disconnect the oil cooler from the radiator.
4)Add 3 to 4 quarts atf to the transmission.
5)start the engine and pump out 2 quarts stop the engine refill the trans and repeat until all the old fluid is removed.


The only issue I may find is if the transmission cooling circuit has a thermostat I may need to revise my process.
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If you do it every 25,000 miles it never has a chance to get old or worn out, and its much less work.

My WS-ATF always looks brand new every year....
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In my opinion mixing 2.5 quarts of new ATF with say 7 quarts of old ATF in the transmission is pointless.
While not the best or most efficient way, it does help. By draining the old trans fluid in the pan, you remove the older fluid which has friction material in it & you replenish the old fluid with new fluid. Remember, the Corollas DOES NOT have a transmission filter, it only has a metal screen which is NOT serviceable. There is NO paper element filter in the trans.

It takes 10 minutes to do the quick 2 quart change.
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