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#1 · (Edited)
Wath is this gadget. No Model # on it. Cant find any ting on internet, like product dont exciste.
Candiac Toyota install this ting instead of convantional rustproof like i ask!!!

C'est quoi ce bidule. Pas de # de model rien n;est inscrit sur le dispositif. Sa n'excite pas sur internet, pas possible de savoir comment sa fonctionne.
Candiac toyota ma installé ce je c'est quoi comme dispositif antirouille a la place d'un traitement pulvérisé conventionne t'elle que demandé a l’achat!!!
 
#2 ·
Hé ! Un Québécois ! Je ne connais pas cette marque mais les antirouilles électroniques n'ont pas bonne réputation. Les compagnies plongent souvent une voiture dans une piscine pour monter que ça marche... mais c'est le seul endroit où ça marche (l'eau conduisant l'électricité également sur toute la surface). Dans la vraie vie, le métal de la voiture ne conduit pas l'électricité également, donc efficacement (sec ici, poussiéreux là, humide ailleurs...). Le concessionnaire m'avait offert trois choix : huile, électronique ou aucun. J'ai choisi «aucun», et c'est ce qui est écrit au contrat. Vérifiez votre contrat pour un recours possible.

Hey ! A Quebecor ! I don't know of this particular brand but electronic rust inhibitor don't have a good reputation. Companies would plunge a car in a pool to show their product work... but that's the only place it would (since water is conducting electricity evenly all over the body and frame). In real life, body and frame of the car don't conduct electricity so evenly, thus efficiently (dry here, dusty there, wet somewhere else). My dealer did offer me three choices : oil, électronic or nothing. I chose "nothing", and that's what is written on the contract. Check your contract for any possible recourse.
 
#3 ·
Je sais pas ce que je vais pouvoir faire.
J'ai attendu 3 mois avant de remplir le questionnaire de satisfaction de Toyota Canada. Pour donner une chance a Candiac Toyota de s'expliquer et donner des information sur ce bidule.
Par la suite, le directeur de Cadiac Toyota ma rappelé pour me donner un char de merde.
Alors, j'ai contacté Toyota Canada, qui dit inacceptable l'attitude et service déplorable du directeur et personnel Candiac, s'en excuse mais pas plus.


I dont know what I am going to be able to do.
I waited 3 months before filling the questionnaire of satisfaction of Toyota Canada.
To give a chance has Candiac Toyota to give some explanation and give information about this thingy.
Afterward, the director of Cadiac Toyota my called back to miss respect and bullshit me.
Then, I contacted Toyota Canada, who says unacceptable the attitude and deplorable service of the director and the staff Candiac, apologizes for it but no more.
 
#4 ·
OK Toyota Canada, just told me that dealer could sold any gaget. Toyota Canada have no responsability for dealer behavior.

Example, Dealer could sold a electronic rustproof. That not sold in any ove the 5 other dealer a go to and Toyota Canada dont do noting about it.

Even worst, The director ove Candiac Toyota call me, not to clear tings up. But to give me a full miss respect and bullshit me. And Toyoto Canada dont give a crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#5 ·
Toyota n'a pas de responsabilité légale selon la loi. Mais tout de même...
Par contre l'attitude du concessionnaire est inexcusable. Après tout, ça les embête peut-être tout de même un peu que Toyota ait été contacté, même si ça ne change rien pour vous.
Hélas, un contrat est un contrat... Mais il y a d'autres concessionnaires pour le service et les achats futurs.
Quand j'ai achetée ma Corolla, j'ai écarté Carrefour 40-640 (Charlemagne, à quelques minutes de chez moi) : pression, arrogance, et suis allé 20 min. plus loin, chez Houle (Montréal/Pointe-aux-Trembles), une entreprise familiale.
Efficace, respectueux, vaut bien le petit 20 min. de route supplémentaire occasionnel.

Toyota doesn't have legal responsibility "by the book". But still...
However the dealership behavior is not excusable. Maybe, after all, it is of some burden for them being reported to Toyota, albeit not helping you.
Unfortunately, a contract is a contract... But there are others dealers for service and future purchases.
When I bought my Corolla, I discarded Carrefour 40-640 (Charlemagne, a few minutes from home) for pressure and attitude and went 20 minutes farther to family owned Houle (Montréal/Point-aux-Trembles).
Very straight forward, worth the occasionnel 20 min. distance !
 
#6 · (Edited)
Tout ceci est déplorable. Comme vous dite, l'attitude du directeur de Candiac Toyota est inexcusable.

Il y a d'autres concessionnaires pour le service et les achats futurs. Mais 5 concessionnaire de ma région ne vendent pas de système antirouille Amerigard electronik et n'en connaissent pas le fonctionnement.. En n plus, de me dire que l'installation a été bâcle.

Et ce n'est pas la seul mauvaise expérience que j'ai eu avec ce concessionnaire. Lord, de la réparation de mon Corolla 2012 avec valeur a neuf. J'ai du me rendre a plusieurs reprise car les répartirons n’entais pas convenablement effectué.

Premièrement, on me remet un véhicule dont le check ingine est allumé. Les réparations esthétique ne sont pas totalement effectué. Ont repart un mag, a la place de le remplacer grâce a la garantie de valeurs a neuf. Finallement on ma remit un véhicule qui se comportais comme une minoune, problème d'alignement ou de direction. L'auto tirait toujours a droit, meme sur la vois de gauche d'une autoroute a 3 voies.

En mois de 1000 KM, les pneu avant ont usée sur l’extérieur de la semelle seulement.

Je ne sais plus quoi faire, a part de boycotter Toyota dans l'avenir!!!

Si Toyota Canada na aucunes procédures pour ce genre de cas, et pas de responsabilité sur les produit vendues sous leur bananière. C'est tout simplement aberrant.

Finalement, a l'achat d'un véhicule neuf tout ceci est déplorable.

Il y a d'autres concessionnaires pour le service et les achats futurs. Mais 5 concessionnaire de ma région ne vendent pas de système antirouille Amerigard electronik et n'en connaissent pas le fonctionnement.. En n plus, de me dire que l'installation a été bâcle.

Et ce n'est pas la seul mauvaise expérience que j'ai eu avec ce concessionnaire. Lord, de la réparation de mon Corolla 2012 avec valeur a neuf. J'ai du me rendre a plusieurs reprise car les répartirons n’entais pas convenablement effectué.

Je ne sais plus quoi faire, a part de boycotter Toyota dans l'avenir!!!

Si Toyota Canada na aucunes procédures pour ce genre de cas, et pas de responsabilité sur les produit vendues sous leur bananière. C'est tout simplement aberrant.

Finalement, a l'achat d,un véhicule neuf on s'attend a plus!!! Apres 25 de fidélité a la marque Toyota. Je songe fortement a changer de maque de véhicule pour mon prochain achat.



All this is deplorable. As you said, the attitude of the Director of Candiac Toyota is inexcusable.

There are other dealers for service and future purchases. But five nearest dealer does not sell Amerigard electronik antirust system and are not aware of the operation .. n In addition, to tell me that the installation was botched.

*And it is not the only bad experience I had with this dealer. Wend, i went for the repair of my 2012 Corolla with a new value. I had to go to several times as reparations was not properly made.

First, it gives me a vehicle with ingine check code is on. Cosmetic repairs are not fully taken care. Have a mag repare, in place of a replacement through a warranty new values. Finally they gave me a vehicle that behaved like a beater, alignment problem or direction. The car was still pull me to the right, even on the left line ove three lanes a highway.

In less than 600 miles, the front tire are worn on the outside only.

I do not know what to do, apart boycott Toyota in the future !!!

If Toyota Canada got no procedures for such cases, and no responsibility for the product sold under their baner. This is simply absurd.

Finally, with the purchase of a new vehicle all this is deplorable.

There are other dealers for service and future purchases. But five nearest dealer does not sell Amerigard electronik antirust system and are not aware of the operation .. n In addition, they tell me that the installation was botched.

*And it is not the only bad experience I had with this dealer. Wend, a got me 2012 Corolla repair with a new value. I had to go to several times as will divide entais not properly made.

I do not know what to do, apart boycott Toyota in the future !!!

If Toyota Canada na no procedures for such cases, and no responsibility for the product sold under their baner. This is simply absurd.

Finally, wend buying new vehicle a expected more !!! After 25 of fidellity, I strongly considering a change of vehicle brand for my next purchase.
 
#8 ·
wath cpould i do with this electronic device?
The screws is all ready rusting.
This Amirigard electronik gaget is no good or dosent work.
The Toyota dealer that install this, just wont give me any service.
And other toyota dealer dont use this crap so they cant help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please help me, wath could i do next.
 
#10 ·
Today a have talk with Leader Auto Resources LAR inc. It is the manifacture or distributor of amerigard electronik. They told me that system is not properly install and they will send me user and instalation manuels.

Candiac Toyota director just yell, insult and it has impinged on my integrity.
As for Toyota Canada, now acction as been take. I notice, that a dealer could do wath ever they want with out any consequences!!!
 
#11 ·
Today a have talk with Leader Auto Resources LAR inc. It is the manifacture or distributor of amerigard electronik. They told me that system is not properly install and they will send me user and instalation manuels.
LAR is not the manufacturer but a wholesale distributor of all kind of products and services to car dealers of all brands. It's nice of them to send you manuals (how come they weren't given to you when you bought the gadget ?)

How were they able to diagnostic a bad installation without seeing the car ? If you could get them to put in detailed writing how your gadget wasn't properly installed - or to be witness - then you might have something against the dealer.

Also, look at warranty and manufacturer reference (if any) in the manuals. Still would be hard to establish malfunction before "X" years without rust, assuming, if there is any warranty at all, that the manufacturer certainly protect itself with specific conditions and exceptions. That's how they keep selling those gadgets without any trouble despite their reputation for being zero effective.
 
#13 ·
Then it's an easy case for the "Office de protection des consommateurs" or small claim court : if the contract says oil anti rust and they didn't provide it, you don't even have to prove bad installation.
Don't wait too long, though. It's generally the kind of thing you noticed on inspection before taking delivery of the good.
When you purchase your next car, just go to an anti rust treatment shop (like "Métropolitain"). You have to visit the shop annually anyway and they are professionals that cost less than at the dealer (about 100 $ a shot).

Again, I understand your feelings toward Toyota but it really has nothing to do with them. Toyota is responsible for the car, not aftermarket parts.
Even for under warranty repairs Toyota is merely a paying customer of the shop/dealer.
It's like if you buy brand "X" tire and the shop don't balance them properly. It's not the fault of the tire or brand "X" nor the car manufacturer.
In the meantime be sure the device doesn't drain your battery uselessly.
 
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