Toyota recalls 246,592 vehicles!!!

Where did the Toyota quality go? I guess I am buying a Honda. Honda has so much less recalls than Toyota = More Reliable than Toyota. Honda > Toyota. Toyota < Honda.

Toyota announced today that it will recall almost 250,000 vehicles in Japan, including 1998-2005 Crown sedan and Hiace vans. The recall doesn’t affect any U.S. or Canadian vehicles; however, the company is considering also recalling over one million of those models that were exported to locations such as Australia, Thailand, Indonesia, India, and some European countries.

The problem is that the surface of a bolt in the engine will erode. This is due to the remaining cleansing liquid. It breaks the bolt and causing the vehicle to halt. This may seem like a careless mistake, but it just shows how dumb Toyota is and that their cars are no longer reliable.

People should buy Honda. It is so much better than Toyota. (better quality and reliablity) Toyota is way overpriced. GM, Ford and DaimerChrysler are being added to my list as Toyota is coming off it. I am sick of their recalls and I don't Want it to happen to me or anyone.

Boo Toyota, you just lost one of your fans.

[Bakemono]

LOL...Hondas arent perfect either.
http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/recalls/01/honda/
Honda used to make very reliable car, but the quality of the Civics has really gone downhill in recent years.
I'll stick with Toyota, they arent perfect, but they are far better than most. Besides, Honda doesnt make a real truck (the Ridgeline is a joke of a truck), so they dont make a vehicle that is practical for me at this time.
Cap'n

[jhbhatia]

man how many v6 honda engines have had transmission problems.
toyota makes great v6 cars, honda makes great i4 cars. both are great.
We have a accord coupe in the family, with shame i can tell you its built soo poorly.
Comparing my 01 solara with 01 accord coupe, its like accord is CHEAP and solara is super luxurious! Honda makes great cars...but they are cheap to mod and cheap in general...There is a reason toyota is projected to surpass GM in 06 to become the biggest auto manufacturer in the WORLD, mind you honda still need to surpass ford and dodge in volumes!!!

[rolla-XRS]

You will notice that ever since Ford and Firestone got their collective ass kicked with Explorer that ALL (or "MOST"...the big 3 are stubborn) auto manufacturers have been pro-active in recalls or customer focused campaigns.

The fall out because of Ford/Firestone was massive and Ford not only took a huge hit in the pocketbook from current owners, but lost significant market share which cost them huge. Their image will be tarnished for a generation.

This is why Toyota is recalling more often - because that 0.0005% risk of a failure is enough to cause a lawsuit and public relations nightmare.

[Cyorke]

I am sorry but no vehicle manufactured is going to be perfect. As for Honda not having recalls and all taht here is info from Alldata for jsut the 04 Honda Accord with the 2.4l engine. these are safetyand general recalls and TSB's. NOw who wants to talk about quality.

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/24/042401b9.html



Then here is the one for 04 Toyota Camry. Same thing safety and general recalls and TSB's. THere seem to be many more TSB's for the Honda than there are for the Camry.

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/59/045908ak.html

I am not trying to bash I jsut want to make sure that people understand there is a lot of stuff that the manufacturers send out that never make it out of the dealership shop area. THere are TSB's sent out on a weekly basis for different problems that the manufacturer has discovered that do not necesarily mandate a recall. These TSB's can be for jsut about anything. Most of the time they are related to warranty items that they have found a way to fix it or diagnose it so it is easier for the techs in the dealerships to find and repair the problems much quicker to keep warranty costs down for the manufacturer.

[epinionator89]

OK, how does a recall for cars only sold in Japan have anything to do with us Americans (last I knew Lexington was a town in the USA)? Seriously, it's 246,592 vehicles in a totally different country. Recalls, at worst, are just inconveniences because you have to drive your car to a dealer to get the affected parts replaced for free. It really isn't that bad. What's better: having a company admit they have to correct a problem of theirs, or you paying out of pocket to fix their problems that they don't want to admit they have made?

I hope I made sense, and sorry if I sound irritated.

[84Cressida]

Originally Posted by tdt59512

Where did the Toyota quality go? I guess I am buying a Honda. Honda has so much less recalls than Toyota = More Reliable than Toyota. Honda > Toyota. Toyota < Honda.



The problem is that the surface of a bolt in the engine will erode. This is due to the remaining cleansing liquid. It breaks the bolt and causing the vehicle to halt. This may seem like a careless mistake, but it just shows how dumb Toyota is and that their cars are no longer reliable.

People should buy Honda. It is so much better than Toyota. (better quality and reliablity) Toyota is way overpriced. GM, Ford and DaimerChrysler are being added to my list as Toyota is coming off it. I am sick of their recalls and I don't Want it to happen to me or anyone.

Boo Toyota, you just lost one of your fans.

Honda better quality? I almost pissed my pants with laughter. When we had our Accord, we had 3 TRANSMISSION recalls on it. Don't give me any of this "Toyota unreliable" Bullshit you are spewing out. Toyotas are the most reliable vehicles on the road, and they make every single car on the road look like junk, even Honda. They have more refinement in a bumper than some automakers have in their entire cars. Toyota is the almighty KING of EVERYTHING.

[vasia]

This year has been interesting for Toyota and recalls. I am saddened to see certain JDM models like the Crown being affected, as they are some of the highest quality cars in the world (for those who know your Crown history).

Nonetheless, if you look at most of Toyota's recalls, they seem to affect older models, not that many new models are affected.

My theory is that Toyota is recalling a lot of cars for minor problems and flaws that are discovered only after the car has been on the road for years.

It could be that Toyota (as well as others like GM) are being more pro-active and recalling cars for minor problems, as opposed to years ago, where recalls typically meant a more serious problem.

Even with all this in mind, Toyota reliability is still pretty strong, evident by the countless surveys, awards, and word of mouth from people all around the world.

Let's hope these recalls don't actually have an affect on overall reliability of Toyota's cars.

[nyscene911]

I really wish they had the Crown over here in the states. Its a very handsome car.

Honda has better quality. The 2003 TL Type-S my parents have is running smoothly. My 1996 Toyota Avalon XL is breaking down. I already got two flats, dead battery, dead light bulb and replaced power steering (defective!!!) Acura has only transmission recall, but that all, they don't lie like Toyota who takes your money. They should recall their cars that are bad and not hide it!!!)

Acura also has more horsepower than Toyota. More standard features, better quality, better value.

Toyota
Acura
T: 3.0 V6 w/ 192 hp
A: 3.2 V6 w/ 260hp
T: Length: 190.2 in.
A: Length: 192.9 in.
T: Height: 55.9 in
A: Height: 56.1 in
T: Ground Clearance: 5.1 in.
A: Ground Clearance: 5.9 in.
T: Width: 70.3 in.
A: Width: 70.3 in.
T: Wheel Base: 107.1 in.
A: Wheel Base: 108.1 in.
T: Curb Weight: 3245 lbs.
A: Curb Weight: 3558 lbs
T: Front Head Room: 39.1 in.
A: Front Head Room: 38.2 in.
T: Rear Head Room: 37.8 in.
A: Rear Head Room: 36.5 in
T: Front Leg Room: 44.1 in.
A: Front Leg Room: 42.4 in.
T: Luggage Capacity: 15.4 cu. ft.
A: Luggage Capacity: 14.3 cu. ft
T: Front Shoulder Room: 57.7 in.
A: Front Shoulder Room: 56.2 in
T: Rear Shoulder Room: 57.3 in.
A: Rear Shoulder Room: 55.7 in
T: Rear Leg Room: 38.3 in.
A: Rear Leg Room: 35 in.
T: Turning Circle: 37.6 ft.
A: Turning Circle: 39.7 ft.
T: Fuel Tank Capacity: 18.5 gal.
A: Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.1 gal
T: 21 mpg / 29 mpg
A: 19 mpg / 29 mpg

How sad!!! Acura has 68 more horsepower and gets the same fuel economy. How embarrassing!!!

Nice going Toyota!!!

Here is more, the standard features. Toyota has a much shorter list than Acura!!!

Acura
Bucket Seats
Center Console
Fog Lights
Garage Door Opener
Heated Front Seats
Power Heated Mirrors
Keyless Entry System
Lighted Entry System
Overhead Console
Power Brakes
Power Moonroof
Rear Window Defroster
Wood Interior Trim
17 Inch Wheels
3.2L V6 SOHC 24V FI Engine
Power Driver Seat w/Memory
5-Speed Automatic Transmission
Clock
Tachometer
Alloy Wheels
Stability Control
Traction Control
4-Wheel ABS
Driver and Passenger Front Airbags
Front Side Airbags
Anti-Theft Alarm System
Leather Seats
Power Front Passenger Seat
Rear Bench Seat
Audio Steering Wheel Controls
Cruise Control
Power Steering
Remote Trunk Release
Tilt Steering Wheel
Leather Shift Knob Trim
Leather Steering Wheel Trim
Air Conditioning
Automatic Climate Control
Intermittent Windshield Wipers
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Xenon High Intensity Discharge Headlights (safe)
Electrochromatic Rear View Mirror
AM/FM/CD Changer Audio System (6-disc cd changer)
Bose Audio (150 watts)



Toyota
Bucket Seats
Lighted Entry System
Power Antenna
Power Brakes
Rear Window Defroster
Tinted Glass (no its not) (Acura is darker)
15 Inch Wheels (hubcaps too)
3.0L V6 DOHC 24V FI Engine (eats a lot of gas for < 200hp)
4-Speed Automatic Transmission (weak) Ford Fusion is 6-Speed
Tachometer
Driver and Passenger Front Airbags
Cloth Seats (no leather!!!)
Cruise Control (no radar)
Power Steering (defective)
Remote Trunk Release
Tilt Steering Wheel
Air Conditioning (no climate control)
Intermittent Windshield Wipers (no rain sensing)
Power Windows (only driver auto up)
Power Door Locks
Power Exterior Mirrors (Don't fold)
AM/FM/Cassette Audio System (much worse than Bose, should not be considered as an Audio System)

[84Cressida]

Way to moron by comparing a luxury brand to a regular brand. Compare Lexus to Acura and you'll be pissed.

[Luckynumber5]

My entire argument against honda is : D16

[84Cressida]

Originally Posted by tdt59512

Honda has better quality. The 2003 TL Type-S my parents have is running smoothly. My 1996 Toyota Avalon XL is breaking down. I already got two flats, dead battery, dead light bulb and replaced power steering (defective!!!) Acura has only transmission recall, but that all, they don't lie like Toyota who takes your money. They should recall their cars that are bad and not hide it!!!)

Acura also has more horsepower than Toyota. More standard features, better quality, better value.

Toyota
Acura
T: 3.0 V6 w/ 192 hp
A: 3.2 V6 w/ 260hp
T: Length: 190.2 in.
A: Length: 192.9 in.
T: Height: 55.9 in
A: Height: 56.1 in
T: Ground Clearance: 5.1 in.
A: Ground Clearance: 5.9 in.
T: Width: 70.3 in.
A: Width: 70.3 in.
T: Wheel Base: 107.1 in.
A: Wheel Base: 108.1 in.
T: Curb Weight: 3245 lbs.
A: Curb Weight: 3558 lbs
T: Front Head Room: 39.1 in.
A: Front Head Room: 38.2 in.
T: Rear Head Room: 37.8 in.
A: Rear Head Room: 36.5 in
T: Front Leg Room: 44.1 in.
A: Front Leg Room: 42.4 in.
T: Luggage Capacity: 15.4 cu. ft.
A: Luggage Capacity: 14.3 cu. ft
T: Front Shoulder Room: 57.7 in.
A: Front Shoulder Room: 56.2 in
T: Rear Shoulder Room: 57.3 in.
A: Rear Shoulder Room: 55.7 in
T: Rear Leg Room: 38.3 in.
A: Rear Leg Room: 35 in.
T: Turning Circle: 37.6 ft.
A: Turning Circle: 39.7 ft.
T: Fuel Tank Capacity: 18.5 gal.
A: Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.1 gal
T: 21 mpg / 29 mpg
A: 19 mpg / 29 mpg

How sad!!! Acura has 68 more horsepower and gets the same fuel economy. How embarrassing!!!

Nice going Toyota!!!

You're a troll. Toyota recalls any problem they have with their vehicles unlike Honda who is run by sissy women (Ridgeline) Toyota is more reliable. Every Toyota we've had has been bulletproof, and none of them have given us trouble. My Cressida is more reliable than ANY HONDA could ever dream of. My ex aunt's Honda CRX was a total lemon, and had repairs that Honda wouldn't cover under warranty. Oh yeah a 2 flat tires, battery, and a light bulb? WTF, that isn't Toyota's fault, and you know it. Compare Honda to Toyota, and Lexus to Acura. Toyota/Lexus OWN Honda/Acura, troll. BAN HIM.

I understand, but i am comparing on my standpoint. I dont have a Lexus in my family so i cannot compare. The Avalon could compare with the Acura. Look at the 2006 Avalon and Acura. Those are comparable.