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Old 08-02-2007, 08:57 AM   #46 (permalink)
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So how often has Toyota (or Japanese in general) come out with the most of anything. Yeah I can't think of one case. They tend to be very conservative. For example name me one type of car that toyota makes that is highest in it's class for HP or torque.

Not that it can't be done (390hp 700ft/lb) but they play markets very carefully. The Japanese manufactures are known to take what we make, tweak it and give it back to us. Just look at what they did with the minivan, and also the SUV. They rarely make market breaking vehicles.
Take the Supra Turbo and Mr2 Turbo. Also the celica all-trac was pretty groundbreaking but those are 90's cars when Toyota was actually producing cool cars/trucks. The only thing out from toyota currently is the X-runner which is pretty original too.
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Oh, I won't debate the fact that Corvette and T-bird came about because of the American desire to "get in the game" when it came to halo sports cars. What isn't open to debate is that Corvette has owned all would-be competitors in its niche. Thunderbird couldn't compete and has gone through many configurations, RX-7 and Supra came and went...Porsche is just about the only company to hang in there despite the fact that the similarly-priced Boxster is a distant second in sales....
Not true when Toyota released the Toyota Supra Turbo Mk4 it beat out everyone else (in class) including corvette.
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toyota has one of the largest fleets of consumer diesel trucks in the world they are renowned in africa,australia and south america the new twin turbo diesel v8 for the landcruiser 130 series is rumored to have 650 nm torque(IH8MUD)which is 480 ft/lbs i heard this should be available from @1500 rpm.might need some tweaking to come under US tier 2 bin 5 regs though.
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