Same old NASCAR topic......

[RAV4EVR]

May be this was posted before.............. I love what these guys are thinking.. LOL... espcially the last guy... According to him, they need to ship out the Georgetown plant since it is not American.... I can picture this guy... I bet he is missing a few teeth and he stinks... LOL!!

I hated NASCAR until now but I see myself with NASCAR eating plates and banners in my garage by next year in my house... !!!

“I’m not going to root for the cars,” said fan Al High when asked about Toyota’s entry. “I’m going to root for the drivers.” Another fan, Glen Barber, said “it doesn’t bother me they’re in racing. … It’s just another nose piece (front of car) and a brand name.”
But fan Glen Wilkinson was definitely not accommodating. “It won’t be NASCAR,” he stated. “It will be ‘Japanese car’.” And while he’s aware that Toyota has plants in the U.S. building vehicles (called ‘transplants’) he added, “I know we got a plant up there (in Georgetown), but it’s not American. I think they ought to just ship it out of here, anything that’s not American-made.”
Toyota is apparently aware of the situation and sees participation in NASCAR as a further extension to its American factories, employment, and reputation. Said said Jim Farley, vice president of marketing for Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., “we (Toyota) hope, if we do it right, it’s a way to be seen as a part of America, not just a company with a big check.

[EchoHoLiK]

^^^ Can you post a link of where you heard this. I'll comment on that as long as I read what these people have to say first, since I don't wanna start a flame war (Stevie Ray, nycscene911.....yes I'm looking at you )

[nyscene911]

Originally Posted by EchoHoLiK

^^^ Can you post a link of where you heard this. I'll comment on that as long as I read what these people have to say first, since I don't wanna start a flame war (Stevie Ray, nycscene911.....yes I'm looking at you )

I've posted here for a while, and I don't post fanboyism or anything.

I personally don't care about NASCAR, so it doesn't effect me at all. So a bunch of rednecks who already don't like Toyota still won't? Ohhhh, big deal. The guy who said its pretty much just a diff. nose and name are right--as far as I know, restrictions are so tight on NASCAR most everyone is running the same stuff anyway.

[RAV4EVR]

Here is the link where I got it from....

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....btag=ab-nascar






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[EchoHoLiK]

Originally Posted by nyscene911

I've posted here for a while, and I don't post fanboyism or anything.

I personally don't care about NASCAR, so it doesn't effect me at all. So a bunch of rednecks who already don't like Toyota still won't? Ohhhh, big deal. The guy who said its pretty much just a diff. nose and name are right--as far as I know, restrictions are so tight on NASCAR most everyone is running the same stuff anyway.

Point noted. It's true, other than all the decal headlights and taillights and all that, it's the same thing underneath the decals and the paint. In fact, a NASCAR race car has next to nothing similar to its respective road car. When was the last time anyone see a Camry running a cast-iron block OHV V8 pushing more than 600+hp?

I used to not give a damn about NASCAR, since it's only the big-3 racing each other which is quite frankly, boring (and as if running in ovals for hundreds of laps isn't boring enough). But since Toyota joined the NCTS, that particular series had started to get exciting (more so than the regular NASCAR Busch series and Nextel Cup, which I still don't watch, until next year when the Camry joins the roster), and I started to catch it whenever I can.

[EchoHoLiK]

Originally Posted by RAV4EVR

Here is the link where I got it from....

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....btag=ab-nascar
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Seems like there're pages that I've failed to be bothered to read them. But from the general tone of (both positive and negative comments and opinions), here's my take.

Yes, some of these die-hard fans are red-necks, which isn't surprising. They're patriotic to the MAX, and no one can blame them, even though they might be driving their beloved cars or trucks that are not really made in USA. But to them, driving anything that has the big-3 brands on them is American enough. Any Jap or European imports brands, however, will not be considered American in their eyes, no matter that some of these "imports" are actually built in their homeland, by American people.

Some of these people that are anti-Toyota-in NASCAR are seemingly closeminded, or are reluctant to accept because of the war, or are plainly scared of Toyota winning and dominating the series. IMO, if these people want Toyota to leave NASCAR, then fine, as long as they pull their American racing efforts out of international racing series, such as F1 or the Corvettes in Le Mans........So yeah, such a strategy sounds immensely rediculous, but then again I'm being sarcastic about these people that wanna see Toyota disappear from NASCAR, which ain't gonna happen. Besides, you dunno how shitty you are until new competition comes in to take your place, which will then only make you work harder to improve and beat them back. It's kinda sad that the big-3 doesn't have such a mentality or desire to accept challenges from others and to improve upon themselves. They see these "competitions" as a threat and just wanted them out, rather than welcoming them and develop healthy competition and respect amongst each other. Maybe it isn't fair for me to criticize about such things about the big-3, since it isn't 100% true and they ARE improving, BUT, some of their closeminded fans spoke their minds for their beloved companies, and even the companies themselves are sometimes insinuating such mentality (to imply without having to say it in words). To me, that's taking a step BACK, NOT FORWARD.

Some of them need to grow up and realize the world isn't as perfect like it used to be, or like the way they wanted it to be.