DO NOT FORGET TO SEE THE PICTURE. SEEING TOYOTA WRITTEN THERE IS AWESOME !!!!
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BROOKLYN, Mich. (AP) - Toyota made its first official on-track appearance Monday, with Bill Elliott, Michael Waltrip and Dave y all piloting Camrys in NASCAR's Car of Tomorrow test at Michigan International Speedway.
New executions in Toyota's Nascar-sponsorship campaign starring Darrell and Michael Waltrip break this weekend.
"[Darrell Waltrip] is the right guy for the job because he has such legitimacy," said Saatchi & Saatchi creative director Greg Braun. "He's one of the most popular personalities and he's loaned credibility to Toyota's racing efforts. So we created spots that played to his strengths and had an element of truth to them."
Was it because of the racing itself or because only the Big 3 participated?
I can assure you the actual racing will be just as boring as ever.
Yup, especially when "the car of the future" bullshit comes to NASCAR. Hmmmm, a NASCAR with a ricer wing? That won't piss off 95% of the current fanbase
Don't expect big things from Toyota the first couple of years either. NASCAR is 1% car, 99% driver and crew. Right now, toyota doesn't have a single driver that's worth anything in their "stable." That will most likely change if they can get wins, but until then they have a group of drivers that have either never won a race, or have only won a race or two in the last 5 or 10 years.
Don't expect big things from Toyota the first couple of years either. NASCAR is 1% car, 99% driver and crew. Right now, toyota doesn't have a single driver that's worth anything in their "stable." That will most likely change if they can get wins, but until then they have a group of drivers that have either never won a race, or have only won a race or two in the last 5 or 10 years.
hmmm, I'm sure that's what most people thought beforehand when Toyota entered the Craftsman Truck series
We shall see (the domestics getting their asses kicked)
hmmm, I'm sure that's what most people thought beforehand when Toyota entered the Craftsman Truck series
We shall see (the domestics getting their asses kicked)
The truck series and car series have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
You obviously know NOTHING about NASCAR.
Feel free to check the driver standings of the DRIVERS toyota is going to use for '07.
The preliminary 2007 Toyota Cup Lineup::
Bill David Racing - 2/3 teams: #22-Dave y, #36-Jeremy Mayfield, Bill Lester ?
Michael Waltrip Racing - 3 teams: #55-Waltrip, #?-Jarrett [UPS] and #00-BurgerKing/Dominos-no driver yet
Red Bull Racing - 2 teams; #83-Brian Vickers and un-numbers/no driver
Germain Racing - 1 part time team with Todd Bodine running some COT races
The highest ranked driver is Brian Vickers coming in at 18th place in points. Out of ALL the drivers toyota has signed up....
Wins this year: ZERO
Top 5's: 5
Top 10's: 8 (5 of which were due to top 5's)
Poles: ZERO
These numbers are TOTALED TOGETHER from 6 of the 7 drivers listed above. Todd Bodine is a truck series driver and has not driven in the cup series this year, no telling how he would do.
Brian Vickers is the only promising driver at the moment.
As I said before: DO NOT EXPECT BIG THINGS FROM TOYOTA THE FIRST FEW YEARS. I AM NOT A HATER. I KNOW NASCAR. Toyota entered the truck series basically when it began so ALL the mfgs were on a level playing ground. The cup series has been around for over 50 years. UNTIL toyota can get some QUALITY teams and drivers, don't expect anything in the W column for '07. As I said before and will say again. NASCAR is 1% car and 99% driver and team. They MAY have an advantage in that the "car of the future" will be new to all teams, but Toyota still has "crappy drivers." They need some real drivers who can win races. They don't currently have any. Vickers has potential, but he's still a youngin. We shall see
MY WISH WAS FOR CAMRY TO ENTER NASCAR.
Just have Toyota anywhere on the planet makes it an interesting place for me... .. sorry the other manufacturers are just a toothpaste to me... THEY JUST EXIST around me..
It may take TOYOTA CAMRY a while to be on top in NASCAR but that doesn't matter at this point because TOYOTA has just entered it. It takes time to build.
IN ANY CASE.................... I am and I can speak for the ""TRUE TOYOTA FANS"", a lot of people are happy about this... the driver may be lame.. it may be not a total TOYOTA representation on the track......... yea yea yea... ...................
BUT PEOPLE......................... THERE WILL BE A TOYOTA TEAM AT NASCAR....................
After all it didn't take Toyota 1 year to conquer the US market...
Let it take its time... and relax with the attitudes....
MY WISH WAS FOR TOYOTA TO ENTER NASCAR.
Just have Toyota anywhere on the planet makes it an interesting place for me... .. sorry the other manufacturers are just a toothpaste to me... THEY JUST EXIST around me..
It may take TOYOTA a while to be on top in NASCAR but that doesn't matter at this point because TOYOTA has just entered it. It takes time to build.
IN ANY CASE.................... I am and I can speak for the ""TRUE TOYOTA FANS"", a lot of people are happy about this... the driver may be lame.. it may be not a total TOYOTA representation on the track......... yea yea yea... ...................
BUT PEOPLE......................... THERE WILL BE A TOYOTA TEAM AT NASCAR....................
After all it didn't take Toyota 1 year to conquer the US market...
Let it take its time... and relax with the attitudes....
Where have you been? Toyota has been in NASCAR since 2004
Yeah, I'm a smart ass, I can't help it, it's only my internet personality, I swear!
The truck series and car series have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
You obviously know NOTHING about NASCAR.
Feel free to check the driver standings of the DRIVERS toyota is going to use for '07.
The preliminary 2007 Toyota Cup Lineup::
Bill David Racing - 2/3 teams: #22-Dave y, #36-Jeremy Mayfield, Bill Lester ?
Michael Waltrip Racing - 3 teams: #55-Waltrip, #?-Jarrett [UPS] and #00-BurgerKing/Dominos-no driver yet
Red Bull Racing - 2 teams; #83-Brian Vickers and un-numbers/no driver
Germain Racing - 1 part time team with Todd Bodine running some COT races
The highest ranked driver is Brian Vickers coming in at 18th place in points. Out of ALL the drivers toyota has signed up....
Wins this year: ZERO
Top 5's: 5
Top 10's: 8 (5 of which were due to top 5's)
Poles: ZERO
These numbers are TOTALED TOGETHER from 6 of the 7 drivers listed above. Todd Bodine is a truck series driver and has not driven in the cup series this year, no telling how he would do.
Brian Vickers is the only promising driver at the moment.
As I said before: DO NOT EXPECT BIG THINGS FROM TOYOTA THE FIRST FEW YEARS. I AM NOT A HATER. I KNOW NASCAR. Toyota entered the truck series basically when it began so ALL the mfgs were on a level playing ground. The cup series has been around for over 50 years. UNTIL toyota can get some QUALITY teams and drivers, don't expect anything in the W column for '07. As I said before and will say again. NASCAR is 1% car and 99% driver and team. They MAY have an advantage in that the "car of the future" will be new to all teams, but Toyota still has "crappy drivers." They need some real drivers who can win races. They don't currently have any. Vickers has potential, but he's still a youngin. We shall see
Yeah, well Toyota's NCTS driver lineup wasn't very impressive either, but they sure did make stars out of them. Toyota knows racing, and they know NASCAR. In just 3 years, they're basically conquering NCTS. Granted, the level of competition is that much higher in Nextel Cup, and I think Toyota is looking forward to that. And NASCAR isn't 1% car. If your car is understeering mid-corner and you have to let off the gas, a car with a better setup will blow past you as you enter the straight. Car setup has a lot do to with the success of the top teams and drivers. Setup your car poorly, and you're in the back of the pack, even as a top driver until you can pit and make adjustments. That's just the way it is.
I don't expect much out of the first year, maybe one or two wins, but the next consecutive years will be interesting, no doubt. Once Toyota builds their name in Nextel Cup, you'll see some very brand loyal faces moving over.
And NASCAR isn't 1% car. If your car is understeering mid-corner and you have to let off the gas, a car with a better setup will blow past you as you enter the straight. Car setup has a lot do to with the success of the top teams and drivers. Setup your car poorly, and you're in the back of the pack, even as a top driver until you can pit and make adjustments. That's just the way it is.
You made my point for me, thanks Exactly WHO sets up the car and makes adjustments during pitstops? The crew? The car doesn't adjust itself, and without a good driver to TELL the crew what's wrong, they can't fix it. Nascar has almost nothing to do with the car itself as it does the drivers and crew. You can take a car, win a race with it, take it to the exact same race next year, don't change the se-up, and get a 20th place finish. A good driver and good crew win races, not the car.
The drivers Toyota has added to their stables have shown over several years that they cannot competiviely compete in the cup series, with the exception of Vickers who appears to be an up and coming rookie. If toyota is to be competitve they need to lure some of the better teams/drivers into their stables. Lets bookmark this one for next year and see what happens
Still, you can have a long green flag run and have to pit, putting yourself a lap or two down. I'm just saying it's more than 1%. That was a little too low for me.
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