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Old 10-11-2006, 09:47 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I hate to be a downer but I really don't think they are brining back the Supra. For one I read an article in my local paper about a month ago on what toyota has planned for the next few years and they said the Supra is nothing but a rumor. They said a new Corolla, Tundra and Highlander were coming in the next few years and that they are making that FX-TS or whatever it was crossover. Also the design of the supposed new supra to me doesn't fit the design direction toyota is going in right now, the head lights especially remind me more of the gen 5 camry, where as if you look at the yaris, and supposed pics of the new corolla they all take design cues from the 07 cam, even the concept FX-TS and Freedom Van (or whatever it was called) had likings to the new cam, so wouldn't the supra have a design more in line with the rest of the cars? Also there have been other magazines that had pics of a supposed Supra, here is a link to one from a few years ago and says that a new supra is comming in 05 http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/rumors.htm. Finally, toyota for the most part seems to be steering away from sport cars and coupes, they got rid of the MR2 Spyder, Celica and the Solara is on its way out too. Honestly I don't think sports cars are a money maker for Toyota and that is why they have discontinued most of them. I know they are making a corolla coupe , whcih they are probably doing because Honda has had success with the civic coupe, but if people don't take to the Corolla coupe it will be on its way out like the rest of the coupes/sport cars.
Umm, that Supra photochop is basically that, a photochop. It's not real and it's no indication of how the real Supra will look like, if it does get built. It's better to brush what you see off rather than make-believe like so many did due to being naive.

And your closing statement is what I've said long time ago. If Toyota does come out with a new affordable sports car but sales sucks, then when it gets killed off production, the only ones to blame are the "fans" that bitched about Toyota not having sports car but when Toyota builds one they don't buy one. We shall see if history repeats itself
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Well duh

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Old 10-11-2006, 10:33 AM   #63 (permalink)
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And your closing statement is what I've said long time ago. If Toyota does come out with a new affordable sports car but sales sucks, then when it gets killed off production, the only ones to blame are the "fans" that bitched about Toyota not having sports car but when Toyota builds one they don't buy one. We shall see if history repeats itself
The MKIV Supra was not "affordable" at all, dude

50k+ was steeeeeeeeeep.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:40 AM   #64 (permalink)
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The MKIV Supra was not "affordable" at all, dude

50k+ was steeeeeeeeeep.
Of course, but same goes for the contemporary 300ZX, NSX, and RX-7. So it's relative to that era, plus they're all trying to be supercars, but only ending up being "super" cars.

We shall move on from comparing the past, because time has changed.
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:19 AM   #65 (permalink)
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ummm... a few things id like to mention...

i dont see how any current say supra enthusiast can be happy about this car... it completely kills the supras herritage of the inline 6...

also, that photo is a chop... its a new eclipse with a longer front end... that is all... compare body lines, they are almost identicle...

also... Toyota has stated that they do NOT have plans to resurect the supra...

hence this image taken directly off Toyota.com (under planet kaizen)
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:21 AM   #66 (permalink)
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id also like to mention that road and track has written BS rumors about cars that are supposedly coming out for years, especially the supra and it has never proven true
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:34 AM   #67 (permalink)
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They'd have to build it domestically to keep the price down. A hard thing to do since no IS/GS platforms are built in the U.S. They'd have to adapt a current factory to produce a limited production car, which isn't cost effective either.
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:25 AM   #68 (permalink)
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i dont see how any current say supra enthusiast can be happy about this car... it completely kills the supras herritage of the inline 6...
Can someone explain to me the irrational fascination with the idea of keeping the inline-6 engine configuration please? So if the next Supra isn't inline-6 (which it WON'T if Toyota does produce it), does it not make it a Supra or Supra-successor?

Don't get me wrong, I love the inline-6 engine as much as anyone on this planet we called Earth, but the V6 configuration is proven to be smaller and lighter in size and weight, and have so much more potential than the inline configuration when it calls for more than 5 cylinders. You can no longer do a longitudunal inline-6 front engine rear drive layout when you want the mid-front weight distribution, which handling is even more of an objective than all out power. Drag-racers can and still use the inline-6 because yes it's a proven engine, but also the fact that they have so much more room and wheelbase to play with. On a road car, the sheer dimensions of the inline-6 will become a compromise in the 21st Century.

Is it a Toyota thing? I mean, the next Nissan Skyline GT-R has already moved on towards V6 engine configuration, and I don't think anyone has complained or considered that "because it's not inline-6 anymore so it's NOT a Skyline GT-R!!"


Go ahead, disprove my rationality

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Old 10-12-2006, 08:25 AM   #69 (permalink)
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can they bring the chaser here? ... itd be nice to have a 2jz with rwd .. under a toyota name .. without swapping an engine in like some have done with the gs ... i wouldnt mind that. the supra is a legend and they should keep it that way imo. unless they plan to top the last generation, i dont think they should develop something to just be sold in the sports car segment. toyota needs a real performer that can surpass our expectations. bring a new supra that everyone will gasp in awe
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:56 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I've said this before here and will say it again: The Toyota Chaser has been discontinued since after 2000, with no plans to bring it back. It won't be coming back to the Japanese anytime soon, let alone North Americans. Toyota already tried a Chaser here, only to drop it with the onset of

I won't really agree with the bitching about the inline-six heritage - heck as long as the thing makes good power I'll love it still. A lot of you fail to remember that there were four generations of Supra. The first two were never offered with a turbo. As I've said earlier in this thread, the MKII, I think, would be a super awesome throwback if a new Supra were to be introduced. The MKIII and MKIV were overweight (but still quick) beasts, which hampered handling to a degree.

Maybe I'm just a MKII fanboy
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:29 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I'm an MK fan.

I've been playing Mortal kombat every since MK one. ;I

And isn't new engines introduced because "they're just overall better?" in certain areas?
The inline-6 is leaving for a reason. They sure don't use it in their IS's anymore.
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:12 PM   #72 (permalink)
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my whole point though with that is give it a new name... it shouldnt be called a supra just like the new skyline thats coming to america is just going to be called a 'GTR'...

also, i do recall bitching about the new skyline because previous versions of it where faster and handled better, the new skyline (aka G35) is as fast as the 300ZX (actually on top gear they raced the 300ZX vs the 350Z and the 300zx desimated it)...
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The Standard of living is higher in this world as a whole as compared to decades ago. The United States is doing even better. I don't understand how sports cars were ok 20-30 years ago and now people can't afford them anymore.

Isn't it more about spending on necessaties (minivans) rather than luxuries (sports cars)?

Yet the sports cars are disappearing and the "pratical" cars are popular..


Is it frustration with life?
Busy life?
Obsession with money?

May be sports cars were cheap 30 years ago and went up exponentially as compared to the "normal" cars.

May be it was just a sports cars flick that lasted two/three decades 1960s-70s-80s and then it died.

Personally, I would buy a Supra to put it in the showcase or occassionally drive it.. 30,000 plus is too much to spend on something that is only for me look at everyday, unless ofcourse I have the spare change but then again,,... people have more money today then they did 30 years ago...............
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The one thing I dont get is why they just dont reuse the 2jzz-gte engine when there was no problem with it and it could easily run 600 hp with stock internals.
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