Spy Shots: 2008 Matrix?

[middleoroad]

judging from the tr versions of the yaris and auris in europe and canada toyota may give us something racier in the next couple years.the mr2s and the older celicas are sweet but id rather have a sleeper.

[EchoHoLiK]

Originally Posted by ever12

If Toyota decides to ignore what the public has been asking for another year, I put my down payment on a 2008 VW Rabbit. (170hp compact for $15k? If only Toyota was so generous..)

I understand what you meant and I agree with most of what you said, but you're hardly making your point by getting a non-performance-orientated Rabbit At least be a man and get a Golf GTi And if that Rabbit ends up being a bitch then you might have to come crawling back crying and stuff.

[ever12]

Originally Posted by EchoHoLiK

I understand what you meant and I agree with most of what you said, but you're hardly making your point by getting a non-performance-orientated Rabbit At least be a man and get a Golf GTi And if that Rabbit ends up being a bitch then you might have to come crawling back crying and stuff.

Yeah, your right, that didn't really make sense to people reading it. What I was thinking was to get a Rabbit for a daily driver and opt for another AE86 and possibly a 4ag swap as a project. I would prefer a GTI but $7k more for 30hp isn't worth it to me when it's all going to driving in traffic anyway. But yeah, that did come out kind of retarded.

[CarGuyLee]

So does anyone know when they new Vibe/Matrix will be out?

[toyotaQC]

We start to build it in Dec 07 on sale early 08

[Boxedin]

Originally Posted by ever12

You know, I've had countless Toyotas over the years. Everything from an AE86 to an 8th gen Celica, and multiple Camrys, including the 01 i have now. Sometimes I feel like Toyota turned it's back on the performance enthusiasts who have made Toyota such a big part of their culture. Everytime I heard a rumor about an upcoming Toyota sports car, my heart filled with hope, but as time went by each rumor seemed more and more unlikely. Instead, Toyota feeds us rebadged econoboxes and tries to pass them off as being hip under Scion to the American consumer (no offense to Scion owners). I've heard every rumor about the upcoming Toyota lineup from from an AWD V6 Corolla hatch variant to a lightweight RWD AE86 sucessor. I'm waiting until SEMA these year to see what Toyota has in store. If Toyota were to come out with a car for next years line up that would be worth paying attention to, I would forgive Toyota for its shortcomings these past years and happily become a Toyota fan again. If Toyota decides to ignore what the public has been asking for another year, I put my down payment on a 2008 VW Rabbit. (170hp compact for $15k? If only Toyota was so generous..)

not to be a crap head but, 150 hp...

[ever12]

Originally Posted by Boxedin

not to be a crap head but, 150 hp...

The 06-07 2.5 models get 150hp. 08+ 2.5 Rabbit and Jetta get 170hp. With the Rabbit's roughly 200lbs weight advantage over the Jetta, it makes the Rabbit a pretty decent athlete for its class

[Boxedin]

Originally Posted by ever12

The 06-07 2.5 models get 150hp. 08+ 2.5 Rabbit and Jetta get 170hp. With the Rabbit's roughly 200lbs weight advantage over the Jetta, it makes the Rabbit a pretty decent athlete for its class

Thanks for the info

[Camread]

Originally Posted by toyotaQC

We start to build it in Dec 07 on sale early 08

what's the pricing on these? and is it going to be a "fun" car to drive or just another yawner?

[supra saiyan]

Pretty sure another boring car from Toyota.

[ever12]

You know, I'm usually not one for Scions but the Scion Fuse concept is pretty sweet. Google it and you'll see what I mean. Supposedly it'll be the first decently performing Scion. Maybe it'll make it to production as the Scion xR I've been hearing so much about. The reason I have confidence a similar model will make it into production is because I saw the Scion t2b concept firsthand and the new 08 xB turned out to look very similar to it. Scion debuted the Fuse concept at the New York international auto show on the same display that had used to show the t2b concept the previous year.