TOYOTA CHINA will be #1 by 2008.... :)

[RAV4EVR]

HOLY CRAP !!!
HOLY CRAP !!!



http://www.motorauthority.com/news/i...-in-china-too/

Japanese companies operating in China have traditionally been disliked when compared with companies from Europe, the US and the rest of Asia. This couldn’t be more evident than in the Chinese auto industry, where until now Volkswagen and General Motors have been the most popular foreign makes. Studies have found that close to 70 percent of Chinese people express an unfavourable view towards Japan, largely due to military conflicts between the two nations in the past. Considering the cultural divide that Toyota is facing in China, we’re quite impressed by the carmaker’s latest performance and it just goes to show how formidable Toyota really is. The company has since doubled its sales in China for the first nine months of this year compared with last year and is outpacing its rivals, including VW and Ford, thanks to the introduction of new models.

See below.... HOLY CRAP.....

Toyota has managed to move 203,000 vehicles this year, outperforming even Ford’s amazing 105.5 percent growth rate. The increase in sales Toyota is enjoying is mainly due in part to the introduction of its Chinese-built Camry sedan, and if growth continues at this rate, Toyota could be number one in China by as early as 2008. Currently GM is at the top spot with 453,832 vehicles sold in the first half of 2006. The car pictured above is the new model Camry that’s sold in parts of Asia and will be called Aurion in other markets.

Even the Chinese could not resist the Toyota after all the wars... Holy Crap........ !!!


China is the FASTEST growing economy in the world right now. They have no national debt whatsoever. Them people lend money not borrrow it. What better place to be on TOP.

[ECHOKnight2000]

I just pissed and crapped myself at the same time

Good news indeed! That's impressive, even for Toyota!

[Z28Wilson]

I think it's kind of hard to forcast who will be number 1 over there in x years...the market is so huge and so untapped that all manufacturers will see monster growth there over the next few years.

[dsmnick]

GM sold 645,680 vehicles via its two local ventures in the January-September period, it said in a statement.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061016/...os_china_gm_dc

[RAV4EVR]

Originally Posted by dsmnick

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061016/...os_china_gm_dc

Oh poor DSMNICK......... forgot to quote the right statement from his own article...... I am sure forgot...

But it underperformed relatively later foreign comers in China. Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.T) and Ford Motor Co. (NYSE:F - news), for instance, more than doubled their vehicle sales in China in the first nine months of this year, they said last week.

PLEASE DON'T CRY.... GM will be fine... Toyota has no plans to kill it...


Ok... find more articles now but make sure they don't have anyting Toyota in it cuz it will always be positive. U slipped in ur last article.... LOL !!

[RAV4EVR]

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

I think it's kind of hard to forcast who will be number 1 over there in x years...the market is so huge and so untapped that all manufacturers will see monster growth there over the next few years.

Hmmmm... Wilson.. Let me ask u something... They are saying Toyota is growing faster than all.................. Does that mean anything to you ?


Also, I thought ur fight was to make America independent and Americans should buy only that was originated in America and built by Americans.
Now, how is Toyota sales in CHINA affecting your life principles?

[dsmnick]

It's a percentage...they had a higher percentage of growth. Think of it in simpler terms...GM sells 10 cars, Toyota sells 3. The next year, Toyota sells 3 more cars, and GM also sells 3 more cars. Toyota's growth is suddenly 100%, while GM's is only 30%. Yet GM sold 13 cars, and Toyota sold 6.

Percentages mean jack shit.

[nyscene911]

Originally Posted by dsmnick

It's a percentage...they had a higher percentage of growth. Think of it in simpler terms...GM sells 10 cars, Toyota sells 3. The next year, Toyota sells 3 more cars, and GM also sells 3 more cars. Toyota's growth is suddenly 100%, while GM's is only 30%. Yet GM sold 13 cars, and Toyota sold 6.

Percentages mean jack shit.

J/W...Do you know of anywhere to get marketshare values for China? I'd be interested. All I know about them is a few years ago, VW ruled there. Then GM came in with MASSIVE growth. And now Toyota has MASSIVE growth in China. As Wilson said, the Chinese market is very difficult to predict. Should be an intresesting battle.

[RAV4EVR]

Originally Posted by dsmnick

It's a percentage...they had a higher percentage of growth. Think of it in simpler terms...GM sells 10 cars, Toyota sells 3. The next year, Toyota sells 3 more cars, and GM also sells 3 more cars. Toyota's growth is suddenly 100%, while GM's is only 30%. Yet GM sold 13 cars, and Toyota sold 6.

Percentages mean jack shit.

When a company is growing as fast as Toyota, as it is in Toyota, it is forcasted to exceed GM sales in 2008, AS PREDICTED AT THIS MOMENT.

Why can't u domestic fans DIGEST that?

Your analysis means jack shit and makes absolutely no sense.

[Z28Wilson]

Originally Posted by RAV4EVR

When a company is growing as fast as Toyota, as it is in Toyota, it is forcasted to exceed GM sales in 2008, AS PREDICTED AT THIS MOMENT.

The key phrase, TN resident doofus, is "As predicted at this moment." Predictions shift, numbers can constantly flux. Hell, 12 months ago GM was seen as the unquestioned leader of growth in China. Toyota was in China at that time too, were they not? I believe they were but I could be wrong.

The point is, the Chinese have well over 1 billion potential car buyers. The auto manufacturers haven't even sold cars to 5% of that market yet. So who's to say what a market that gigantic and untapped will ultimately prefer? You can make educated guesses, but a sampling that miniscule means little.

.....Which goes back to my point of all automakers involved seeing massive growth in that market. Who will be #1 there may almost be irrelevant.

[RAV4EVR]

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

The key phrase, TN resident doofus, is "As predicted at this moment." Predictions shift, numbers can constantly flux. Hell, 12 months ago GM was seen as the unquestioned leader of growth in China. Toyota was in China at that time too, were they not? I believe they were but I could be wrong.

The point is, the Chinese have well over 1 billion potential car buyers. The auto manufacturers haven't even sold cars to 5% of that market yet. So who's to say what a market that gigantic and untapped will ultimately prefer? You can make educated guesses, but a sampling that miniscule means little.

.....Which goes back to my point of all automakers involved seeing massive growth in that market. Who will be #1 there may almost be irrelevant.

^^

Ok. Mr.I hate the world (forget Toyota) and I hate everybody unless it is America and "pure" AMERICAN.... Whatever u say....
GM ROCKS !!

Will I need ur permission to put something positive Toyota related here? Is it taboo?

[Z28Wilson]

Originally Posted by RAV4EVR

^^

Ok. Mr.I hate the world (forget Toyota) and I hate everybody unless it is America and "pure" AMERICAN.... Whatever u say....
GM ROCKS !!

Will I need ur permission to put something positive Toyota related here? Is it taboo?

It must really hurt your head to keep coming up with so many words yet saying so little that's actually relevant to the conversation. I'm only asking for a logical discussion here.

Toyota has made great inroads in China, as have all manufacturers. The Chinese market is a powder keg of economic potential for outside corporations, and not just autos.

FWIW, I think (surprise surprise! Once again....) you twisted my thoughts and words about this thing we call a "global economy". I do not hate things that do not originate here. I prefer things to be made here and I don't mind checking out country of origin tags to see(either out of morbid curiosity or an actual attempt to find something made in the U.S.) It's called being educated about what you're buying...you may try it sometime(?)

[RAV4EVR]

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

It must really hurt your head to keep coming up with so many words yet saying so little that's actually relevant to the conversation. I'm only asking for a logical discussion here.

Yes. I would be saying more if I was admiring GM. Absolutely, all empty words now.

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

Toyota has made great inroads in China, as have all manufacturers. The Chinese market is a powder keg of economic potential for outside corporations, and not just autos.

It is more than "great" but it would HURT YOU to admit that... hence all this argument here. My putting this article really hurt u. Didn't it?

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

FWIW, I think (surprise surprise! Once again....) you twisted my thoughts and words about this thing we call a "global economy". I do not hate things that do not originate here.

I don't have to twist anything. U prove urself. U r a living/writing example..

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

I prefer things to be made here and I don't mind checking out country of origin tags to see(either out of morbid curiosity or an actual attempt to find something made in the U.S.)

Prefering is different. Angry enough to be posting what u post -->HERE<-- is something else.. Think about it.

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson

It's called being educated about what you're buying...you may try it sometime(?)

Hey I have already admitted it. U and your "friend" here are the most educated here and ofcourse only educated people would know that domestics are good for them. Right?

[Z28Wilson]

Originally Posted by RAV4EVR

It is more than "great" but it would HURT YOU to admit that...

What do you suggest I say that says it even stronger than "great"? Ooooo Ooooo I know, I need these: (queue the happy seal sound effects)

You have a problem with anyone that doesn't worship at the feet of Toyota. Even the other members here that own Toyotas. Seriously dude......stop being the opinion Nazi and just let things flow....

I apologize that I didn't skin my knees falling down to "praise" Toyota at the drop of a hat. I have learned my lesson. With any luck, you will accomplish your goal of turning TN into the most trite, boring enthusiast site on the net.

Originally Posted by RAV4EVR

Prefering is different. Angry enough to be posting what u post -->HERE<-- is something else.. Think about it.

Uhhhh...who's angry? I made that one comment about my personal preferences in a thread discussing the Global Economy. Where else is the appropriate place to mention it, in your eyes? Why do YOU keep bringing it up? Talk about anger.....

Anyways. What a shame. Another potentially stimulating thread predictably ruined by the predictable person.

[Z28Wilson]

Originally Posted by RAV4EVR

Hmmmm... Wilson.. Let me ask u something... They are saying Toyota is growing faster than all.................. Does that mean anything to you ?

I'll try to steer this back on course and answer your question.

Toyota being #1 for growth in China right now means just that. GM was in the same position a year ago, with Toyota there. You can't take anything for granted in a market that immense.

Remember that the Chinese have homegrown automakers like Chery coming online. The quality of their products is pretty horrendous right now....but when they learn how to build cars, it'll be interesting to see how the Chinese take to their own.

Biggest question for me right now is not how brand x is doing over there....it's "how bad is the strain on world oil supplies going to be once half of China is driving??" Granted, we may not have to worry about that for a while yet, but eventually we'll need to develop reliable alternative fuel vehicles. I want to see companies taking the lead in that area more than anything else.