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Old 03-20-2007, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Canada Fed's Announce Rebates Up to $2000 on 21 Fuel Efficient cars... 7 of them TOYOTAs!

Sorry, Canada only! Only 1 Honda on the list!



"Canadian drivers are looking to lower their fuel bills. The ecoAUTO Rebate Program gives them a good way to do it!
As part of the Government of Canada’s plan to protect the environment, the ecoAUTO Rebate Program encourages Canadians to buy fuel-efficient vehicles. How? It offers rebates from $1000 to $2000, to people who, beginning March 20, 2007, buy or enter a long-term lease (12 months or more) for a fuel-efficient vehicle."

http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environ...rt/ecoauto.htm
  • Honda Civic Hybrid
    Rebate: $2000
    1.3 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 4.5 L/100 km
  • Toyota Prius
    Rebate: $2000
    1.5 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 4.1 L/100 km
  • Toyota Camry Hybrid
    Rebate: $1500
    2.4 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 5.7 L/100 km
  • Mini Cooper
    Rebate: $1000
    1.6 L, 4 cylinder
    6-speed Manual
    CFCR = 6.5 L/100 km
  • Toyota Yaris
    Rebate: $1000
    1.5 L, 4 cylinder
    5-Speed Manual
    CFCR = 6.3 L/100 km
  • Toyota Yaris
    Rebate: $1000
    1.5 L, 4 cylinder
    4-Speed Automatic
    CFCR = 6.4 L/100 km
  • Toyota Corolla
    Rebate: $1000
    1.8 L, 4 cylinder
    5-Speed Manual
    CFCR = 6.3 L/100 km
  • Nissan Altima Hybrid
    Rebate: $1500
    2.5 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 5.8 L/100 km
  • Ford Escape HEV
    Rebate: $2000
    2.3 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 6.6 L/100 km
  • Ford Escape HEV 4X4
    Rebate: $1500
    2.3 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 7.4 L/100 km
  • Saturn VUE Hybrid
    Rebate: $1000
    2.4 L, 4 cylinder
    4-Speed Automatic
    CFCR = 7.9 L/100 km
  • Jeep Compass
    Rebate: $1000
    2.4 L, 4 cylinder
    5-Speed Manual
    CFCR = 8.2 L/100 km
  • Jeep Compass
    Rebate: $1000
    2.0 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 8.3 L/100 km
  • Jeep Patriot
    Rebate: $1000
    2.4 L, 4 cylinder
    5-Speed Manual
    CFCR = 8.2 L/100 km
  • Jeep Patriot
    Rebate: $1000
    2.0 L, 4 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 8.3 L/100 km
  • Lexus RX 400H
    Rebate: $1000
    3.3 L, 6 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 7.9 L/100 km
  • Toyota Highlander Hybrid 4X4
    Rebate: $1000
    3.3 L, 6 cylinder
    Continuously Variable Transmission
    CFCR = 7.9 L/100 km
  • Chevrolet Impala FFV
    Rebate: $1000
    3.5 L, 6 cylinder
    4-speed Automatic
    CFCR (E-85) = 12.3 L/100 km
  • Chevrolet Monte Carlo FFV
    Rebate: $1000
    3.5 L, 6 cylinder
    4-speed Automatic
    CFCR (E-85) = 12.3 L/100 km
  • Chrysler Sebring FFV
    Rebate: $1000
    2.7 L, 6 cylinder
    4-speed Automatic
    CFCR (E-85) = 13.0 L/100 km
  • Chrysler Sebring FFV
    Rebate: $1000
    2.7 L, 6 cylinder
    4-speed Automatic
    with Manual Mode
    CFCR (E-85) = 13.0 L/100 km
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Isn't it odd that even today, with all the hand-wringing in the media about how everyone is looking for more fuel-efficient alternatives, Canada (and the U.S.) still feels the need to entice people to buy these cars with tax breaks?

Instead of the government handing out money to people simply for the kind of car they buy, maybe the manufacturers should make these cars appealing for reasons other than their fuel mileage. It would seem the promise of $3/gallon for gas in the summer isn't enough to get people to change what they drive.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Isn't it odd that even today, with all the hand-wringing in the media about how everyone is looking for more fuel-efficient alternatives, Canada (and the U.S.) still feels the need to entice people to buy these cars with tax breaks?

Instead of the government handing out money to people simply for the kind of car they buy, maybe the manufacturers should make these cars appealing for reasons other than their fuel mileage. It would seem the promise of $3/gallon for gas in the summer isn't enough to get people to change what they drive.
i don't know, I think some of those vehicles are pretty appealing. I do think that this money would be better spent elsewhere, however it will help sell a few more Toyotas.

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Old 03-20-2007, 01:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i don't know, I think some of those vehicles are pretty appealing. I do think that this money would be better spent elsewhere, however it will help sell a few more Toyotas.
Yeah, this list isn't so bad. In fact, I'm a little surprised with some of the cars on this list. The U.S. is much more restrictive in what they give a tax credit on. Usually if it isn't a hybrid you can forget about it.

North Americans generally still prefer bigger, roomier cars with some power. We're willing to give up a few MPG for these traits.
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I wish I would of waited could of got a nice rebate still great to see
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If the Yaris gets a $1000 tax break (even the automatic!) because it's "fuel efficient", I wonder what would happen if it was sold with the engines that are actually fuel efficient! And how much of this tax relief is made because of fuel economy? - It is much harder to make the engines efficient and clean that just fuel efficient (take a look at the Suzuki Alto as an example).
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Damn it!!! That's $4,000 off the price of a Prius in BC!!!! Bah.. I only got $750 back... That's what you get for leading the pack .

Well, at least it's a step in the right direction because people have been complaining that only hybrids got a rebate and not other fuel efficient cars.
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why isnt the accord hybrid and chevy aveo on there (maybe they arent offered up north?) and why are those jeeps on there - other than having 4-cylinder motors, they dont seem more fuel efficient than any other 4-cylinder vehicle on the market?
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why isnt the accord hybrid and chevy aveo on there (maybe they arent offered up north?) and why are those jeeps on there - other than having 4-cylinder motors, they dont seem more fuel efficient than any other 4-cylinder vehicle on the market?
The Accord Hybrid does not have that great of fuel economy. It has about 25% worse fuel economy than the Camry Hybrid.

The Jeeps are there becuase there is a special category for SUV fuel economy, and they meet the SUV standard.

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why isnt the accord hybrid and chevy aveo on there (maybe they arent offered up north?) and why are those jeeps on there - other than having 4-cylinder motors, they dont seem more fuel efficient than any other 4-cylinder vehicle on the market?
Because the Chevy Aveo with the 1.6 litre engine gets WORSE mileage than the Civic or Corolla with 1.8 litre engines. (Heck, even the 2.0 litre Aerio can match it withi 145hp)
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Because the Chevy Aveo with the 1.6 litre engine gets WORSE mileage than the Civic or Corolla with 1.8 litre engines. (Heck, even the 2.0 litre Aerio can match it withi 145hp)
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Industry rumour is that Honda is abandoning their hybrid cars since they can't seem to make them profitable enough (read: low sales volumes). This includes the Accord hybrid which stank.
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Industry rumour is that Honda is abandoning their hybrid cars since they can't seem to make them profitable enough (read: low sales volumes). This includes the Accord hybrid which stank.
I'll complete your rumour.

Honda is abandoning hybrid technology in larger vehicles and sticking them in Civic and lower classes.

Edit: The HAH failed because it was Cdn$4,000 more than the EX-V6 and only a 5hp bump and not much increase in FE. I've test driven the HAH in the winter (which in the west coast, isn't much of a winter lol). My avg was 13.6L/100km (it was 13.7 when I started). The engine stopped at the traffic light for ~10 secs then idled the rest of the time. The heater wasn't running at high heat (set at 21.0°C) with OAT probably at +5. It wasn't raining at the time of the test drive.

Even the new Nissan Altima Hybrid is expected to come in at $33k which is $1k more than the TCH and Prius.
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Interesting to note that the Chevy Cobalt and Mazda 3 aren't eligible, since both of those models happen to be two of the worst compact cars when it comes to fuel economy.

February 2007 Canadian car sales (in order) were the Honda Civic, Mazda 3, Chevy Cobalt, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Yaris, Pontiac Pursuit/G5, Ford Focus, Toyota Camry, Dodge Caliber and Nissan Altima.

Civic sales are dropping significantly, but should get a boost from these rebates. The Corolla and Yaris will also get a boost, while the Mazda 3 and Chevy Cobalt could likely lose sales because of this.
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Well the Cobalt just sucks in general anyway.
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