Nothing comes close to a Tacoma for a mid-size truck......not the Frontier which is ugly as can be and feels like your driving in a tin can
It's like the competition isn't even trying.
What was GM thinking with the crappy interior and WEAK WEAK WEAK engines they put in the colorado/canyon? Upon close inspection, fit and finish aren't up to par either.
The dakotas got FUGLY with the last body style change. The only real thing they have going for them is the V-8 manual trucks. But even so, they suck as much gas as a fullsize.
The Ford isn't even a midsize (which may give it a slight market advantage??? for those who actually want a "small" truck) but again, underpowered engines that use more fuel than the more powerful Tacomas. Plus, the bodysyle has been around FOREVER
I have no experience with the new Nissans, but I do like the new body style (don't throw any stones ) But if they are like their predecessors, they would be as Dana described them.
What was GM thinking with the crappy interior and WEAK WEAK WEAK engines they put in the colorado/canyon? Upon close inspection, fit and finish aren't up to par either.
I have no experience with the new Nissans, but I do like the new body style (don't throw any stones ) But if they are like their predecessors, they would be as Dana described them.
Funny I was working at a local Chevy dealer for the last few weeks (plumbing issues) and saw the Colorado up close....its complete crap (and I like GM trucks ), they really missed the mark IMO.....As for the Frontier I test drove one and drove in two others and both had serious road noise, like the body was made out of tin and all three felt like all the lug nuts were loose, road like a tin can.
Funny I was working at a local Chevy dealer for the last few weeks (plumbing issues) and saw the Colorado up close....its complete crap (and I like GM trucks ), they really missed the mark IMO.....As for the Frontier I test drove one and drove in two others and both had serious road noise, like the body was made out of tin and all three felt like all the lug nuts were loose, road like a tin can.
Yeah, the Canyon/Colorado didn't get the greatest reviews from various auto magazines. They're sub-par powertrains and interior quality as well as utilization of interior space, sure they have some strong points but its far and few. The newer Dodge Dakota is nothing really special including its ugly Mitsubishi clone the Raider. I was thinking about why the new Tundra has a base price so "high" because of the Tacoma...so there's not so much overlap. Seeing the newer Tacoma's on the road I sometimes consfuse it with a Tundra previous gen. But that's just me.
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Funny I was working at a local Chevy dealer for the last few weeks (plumbing issues) and saw the Colorado up close....its complete crap (and I like GM trucks ), they really missed the mark IMO.....As for the Frontier I test drove one and drove in two others and both had serious road noise, like the body was made out of tin and all three felt like all the lug nuts were loose, road like a tin can.
I think when GM came out with the Colorado, they were trying to do it as inexpensive as possible, which it why it was based on an the IMAX if I remember correctly. So it was already an older design, and designed for somewhere other than the US.
I think the 4cyl engine is just fine, I've driven it a few times and it's good for me. The 5cyl was a joke, again showing that it was designed for somewhere other than the US.
The frontier 4cyl I was disappointed in, it felt like it struggled, and yes it had a lot of road noise that I didn't notice in others.
I think when GM came out with the Colorado, they were trying to do it as inexpensive as possible, which it why it was based on an the IMAX if I remember correctly. So it was already an older design, and designed for somewhere other than the US.
I think the 4cyl engine is just fine, I've driven it a few times and it's good for me. The 5cyl was a joke, again showing that it was designed for somewhere other than the US.
The frontier 4cyl I was disappointed in, it felt like it struggled, and yes it had a lot of road noise that I didn't notice in others.
IMAX>Colorado.
Oh wait, we're not talking about the big screen movie theatre thing?
Whats the IMAX then?
(oh, and IMAX movies do rule )
I think when GM came out with the Colorado, they were trying to do it as inexpensive as possible, which it why it was based on an the IMAX if I remember correctly. So it was already an older design, and designed for somewhere other than the US.
I think the 4cyl engine is just fine, I've driven it a few times and it's good for me. The 5cyl was a joke, again showing that it was designed for somewhere other than the US.
The frontier 4cyl I was disappointed in, it felt like it struggled, and yes it had a lot of road noise that I didn't notice in others.
They failed on that big time. Unless you want a totally stripped down white reg cab 4 banger, they're not cheap! The crew cabs can range from 20-27K and the ex cabs are 17K to the low 20's.
I don't think the Colorado's are "crap" but for you pay for and what you get.... the value just isn't there. Our DC prerunner Tacoma was 24,500 out the door (plus all the taxes and crap). Way better value.
What's an IMAX? EDIT: Nevermind You posted right before I did.....
I am not a fan of the Colorodo either. Especially the frt the headlights are inthe wronlg place and I was really disappointed when they came out. I think the Tacoma is a far better buy. I had one and really liked it. It was the old body style though. I will post a pic later.
Honestly, I think the goal of the Colorado/Canyon was to further distinguish it from the Silverado/Sierra. Those who truly wanted a smaller truck could get into the GMT355, instead of buying the much larger V6 Silverado.
Obviously GM made some critical mistakes. The 355 platform is surprising capable as far as payload goes, but the engines are rather anemic. I can understand the lack of a V8 option (this is supposed to be a smaller truck) but they spent money to develop the I5 when they had perfectly good V6 motors available. Unforgivable. That mistake was only multiplied by placing the Hummer H3 on the same platform and saddling it with the same 5-banger in a much heavier package.
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The biggest mistake of all was not designing the 355 platform to accept the I6 (from which the I5 is derived). The I6 is physically too long to fit in the engine bay, thus the need to "lop-off" the 6th cylinder. . . .and the interior's of the 355 are crap, with the 1980's cloth. . . .
Truely, there is only one choice when looking for a midsized truck, and it's the Tacoma. As has been said, the rest either look cheap, are cheap, or where made on the cheap. . . .
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The Colorado / Canyon is a leftover from GM's dark days...I remember the lukewarm reviews when it came out as well. The old GM mentality was still in place when that truck was designed and engineered.
So we all agree that the Tacoma owns and rules this segment of the truck market although shrinking...now if Toyota stops having bad omens with the new Tundra then we will be happy. (Toyota fans at least )
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The new Tundra didn't launch until MID FEBRUARY and many dealers were sold out of 06 Tundras in January. Also, when Toyota launched, they still had supply constraints (and still do), so many dealers did not get enough 5.7s. The CREWMAX hasn't been launched yet either.
That explains the drop over last years sales, the biggest factor being a mid February launch (it was then end of February for launch in Canada and many Canadian dealers were sold out of 06s in Dec of 2006)
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This is very very accurate. We had exactly two 2006's available all of Jan and Feb plus one we Dx'd in for a special order.
When the first 2007s began to arrive.. we got the v6 RC Tundra trim. 6 wees later 4 out of the original 6 are still here. There hasn't been a wide variety of DC 5.7L's. CrewMax's ?? ..take a number.
As we know and Toyota does as well that's why they claim this is the "Most important vehical launch in their history" because this segement is one of the toughest if not the most to crack. Sure Toyota is not going to dethrown the Big3 in trucks unless they go under which wouldn't be good but that's another thread. Toyota just wants a piece of the pie as most of their current customers moved on to a non-Toyota product when going to a full-sized truck or when the previous gen Tundra wasn't enough. It will take awhile but give it time and word of mouth and marketing will chip away at it. Don't get me wrong GM has some nice new trucks, Ford's although the top seller out of date, and Dodge...well you get the point. It's easy for the haters to attack this Toyota product more than the others as this is a volital market and fierce competition as well as brand loyalty, but I'm sure Toyota will gain a decent buyer's base for the Tundra.
Here is a video of the Tundra. I beleive this testing was done by an outside source. NOT Toyota.
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I looked it up. It's D-MAX, it's an Isuzu
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