Diesel Tundra coming sometime between 2008 and 2010

[andy82481]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tundra


Heavy Duty Diesel
Toyota Motor Corporation has been eyeing the Ford F-250, and Ford F-350 market for a while now, and they have announced that when the Tundra half-ton sales hit 200,000 units per year they will start production of a Tundra diesel. It may be called the Tundra 2500 , and the Tundra 3500 . It is speculated that Toyota will use a 6.4 liter V10 diesel that will produce anywhere from 380-420 horsepower and around 750 pound feet of torque. Motor Trend, and Car and Driver magazines have reported that production for a heavy-duty Tundra will start anywhere from late 2008 to 2010.

[geoff5093]

eh, i'll believe it when I hear it from Toyota. Although it would be sweet if they did.

[Camread]

Originally Posted by geoff5093

eh, i'll believe it when I hear it from Toyot.

and they have announced that when the Tundra half-ton sales hit 200,000 units per year they will start production of a Tundra diesel

[CorollaDX-R]

i can see it coming... since toyota hav diesel cars elsewhere around the world and Hino Trucks is part of toyota motor corp. (TMC) and they design the toyota tacoma so i wouldn't be surprise to see toyota going to Hino for some diesel engines aswell...

[JetFuelAbuser]

Future use of diesel engines was the reason why they purchased a portion of Isuzu. Isuzu engineers were the architects of the Duramax engines for GM.

[kdhspyder]

Originally Posted by JetFuelAbuser

Future use of diesel engines was the reason why they purchased a portion of Isuzu. Isuzu engineers were the architects of the Duramax engines for GM.

I just heard from our corporate Tundra specialist who just came back from a Manager's meeting in LV that the diesel is done....with CAT. But just as the OP noted when the volume gets to 200K+ it will be launched probably in that 2009/10 time frame.

Hybrid version....

The Izuzu technology from recent press reports will be developed for smaller vehicles and likely first in Japan. For the Tacoma it would be nothing to migrate the diesel technology being used in Thailand to NA whenever the market demands it. I'd expect a full changeover from gas to diesel in the Taco and BOF SUV's in the next 5 years. If the proposed CAFE legislation is passed in Congress then going the diesel route would gain 30% in FE instantly. Midsized trucks and BOF SUV's will have to be at about 30-35 mpg by 2020 if the proposed legislation passes. Going to diesel engines will give the Taco about 29-30 mpg right away.

[geoff5093]

I guess I mis-read the post, lets stick one of those in a Camry, haha

[91MR2quickNA]

Corporate Toyota hasn't even greenlighted the project yet, nor have they abandoned it. They are still examining the market to see if there's a chance for a Tundra HD. Toyota still has a lot of ground to cover with the current Tundra.

[Vmax2007]

Originally Posted by 91MR2quickNA

Corporate Toyota hasn't even greenlighted the project yet, nor have they abandoned it. They are still examining the market to see if there's a chance for a Tundra HD. Toyota still has a lot of ground to cover with the current Tundra.

Bingo!!! This post is dead on.

[TravisAe86]

another awesome vehicle from Toyota. Can't wait!

[Vmax2007]

Originally Posted by TravisAe86

another awesome vehicle from Toyota. Can't wait!

I wouldn't hold your breath.

[msm20032003]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/17/s...duty-tundra-a/

[vasia]

Looks like Toyota will judge the market reaction with a Tundra HD concept, but it's a good chance that an HD Tundra will be going to production. My bet is that consumer reaction to the concept at SEMA will be strong.

EDIT: Also let's not forget Toyota's FTX concept, showing hints at the production Tundra debuted in 2004, at which point development on the 2nd gen Tundra had started long before the concept's unveiling.

I'm confident that as Toyota unveils this HD concept at SEMA, the actual HD Tundra will be far along in development and close to production.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by kdhspyder

I just heard from our corporate Tundra specialist who just came back from a Manager's meeting in LV that the diesel is done....with CAT. But just as the OP noted when the volume gets to 200K+ it will be launched probably in that 2009/10 time frame.

Hybrid version....

The Izuzu technology from recent press reports will be developed for smaller vehicles and likely first in Japan. For the Tacoma it would be nothing to migrate the diesel technology being used in Thailand to NA whenever the market demands it. I'd expect a full changeover from gas to diesel in the Taco and BOF SUV's in the next 5 years. If the proposed CAFE legislation is passed in Congress then going the diesel route would gain 30% in FE instantly. Midsized trucks and BOF SUV's will have to be at about 30-35 mpg by 2020 if the proposed legislation passes. Going to diesel engines will give the Taco about 29-30 mpg right away.

I had heard the same rumours about CAT, but I am unsure that this is actually what we will see when the truck debuts for a couple of reasons. First, Toyota's deal with Isuzu was almost entirely about diesel engines just as you surmise in your post. However, isuzu's specialty is larger diesel engines which makes this deal seem a bit odd if you consider it as an adjunct to a deal with CAT.

The other issue is that Ford is obviously working with CAT at this point for a diesel engine to replace the Navistar V-8's which they currently employ. The recent appointment to the Ford Board of Directors of Caterpillar's Group President made the relationship public although neither company has as yet admitted to any deals. It is possibl that Ford and Toyota could both employ CAT diesels, but it seems unlikely in the extreme.

[vasia]

Despite the rumours, I still don't believe Toyota would use a CAT engine. Knowing Toyota, they would likely use a new in-house developed diesel, or ask Hino to source/develop a diesel for them.