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Old 10-24-2007, 01:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyota to cover defect

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=678203


Toyota to cover defect

In mass mailing going out soon, company offers to pay for minivan doors with bad welds

By RICK BARRETT
rbarrett@journalsentinel.com


Posted: Oct. 23, 2007

Toyota Motor Co. said Tuesday it would cover the costs of repairing doors on up to 600,000 Sienna minivans, after learning from consumers that a part can fail, causing doors to shut unexpectedly.

It's not a factory recall for the vehicles, made from 2004 through 2006, but the owners will receive a letter from Toyota explaining the problem and offering to take care of it at the company's expense.

The letters will be mailed Nov. 2, Toyota spokesman Bill Kwong told the Journal Sentinel.

In Wauwatosa, Tom Osman spent about six months trying to get Toyota, or his local dealership, to pay for the failed door mechanism on his 2005 Sienna.
At best, it was going to cover only 75% of the $2,000 repair bill, Osman said, leaving him to pay the $500 difference.

That was just for one door, on the driver's side, which must be replaced because the "door check mounting panel" failed.

"It's probably a matter of time before the passenger door fails too," Osman said.

The problem is with the front doors on the driver's and passenger's sides, rather than the van's sliding doors. When the door is open, it's supposed to be held in place by the door check mounting panel. When the part fails, the door swings freely.

With two children, ages 4 and 7, Osman said he worries that one of the doors will close on their hands while they're getting out of the vehicle.

Osman was angry that until Tuesday Toyota said it would not cover the full repair costs, because his van had 40,000 miles on the odometer and was out of warranty, even though it was less than three years old.

"This was a factory defect. It should have nothing to do with the warranty," Osman said.

Toyota had been handling the out-of-warranty complaints on a "case by case" basis, said Mary Doherty, customer relations manager at Wilde Toyota, in West Allis. Osman bought the vehicle used from Wilde.

If the vehicles were under Toyota's three-year, 36,000-mile warranty, the repairs were fully covered, she said.

It's difficult to say whether the Sienna door problem is widespread, partly because it might not surface for years on some vehicles.

But Toyota now says it will pay for the repairs on Siennas up to five years old with 100,000 or fewer miles on them.

"We are calling it a warranty enhancement," rather than a factory recall, Kwong said.

The defect was caused by bad spot welds. Siennas are built at the company's factory in Princeton, Ind. Toyota doesn't consider the defect a safety issue, although a door that closes unexpectedly could be hazardous to small children.

"Most of the time, people are just annoyed by a 'popping noise' they hear" when the welds are weak, Kwong said.

The faulty part is the latest in a string of problems that have raised doubts about whether Toyota can maintain quality standards amid booming sales.

Last week, Consumer Reports said Toyota had fallen so far in its annual vehicle reliability survey that it could no longer automatically recommend the company's new cars and trucks to readers.

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More info from siennaclub.org.

http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/inde...showtopic=7482

Yea, I know. . . . they have a website for minivans!!!

Imagine the topics:
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and. . .
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This "Recall" ought to spice things up a bit. . . .
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More info from siennaclub.org.

http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/inde...showtopic=7482
Yea, I know. . . . they have a website for minivans!!!

Imagine the topics:
Cup-holder mods
Soccer Ball storage 101
How to get juice box stains out of the carpet
and. . .
1001 ways to slow traffic

This "Recall" ought to spice things up a bit. . . .
LOL

Kinda like the letter they sent me once for my 98 4Runner a while back to replace the rear springs or something because they were to weak. 5 people the truck and it would bounce like theres no tomorrow.
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warranty enhancements?

Acura extends the warranty on TSXs to 7 years, 100,000kms because they found a faulty issue with the interior lights (that's from 3/60,000).

Toyota doesn't even extend the warranty for the consumers and does it by a case-by-case basis. Ugh...

Reminds me of the time we had to literally beg Toyota to cover the A/C repair cost because the issue started BEFORE the warranty expired and the dealer couldn't find the problem until the warranty expired and because it expired, Toyota didn't want to cover it. We told them it started BEFORE the warranty expired and eventually they only covered 50% of the cost.

The only blessing is that I don't have to deal with Toyota warranty issues very often otherwise, I'd be very annoyed at their attitude towards warranty claims.
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More info from siennaclub.org.

http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/inde...showtopic=7482

Yea, I know. . . . they have a website for minivans!!!

Imagine the topics:
Cup-holder mods
Soccer Ball storage 101
How to get juice box stains out of the carpet
and. . .
1001 ways to slow traffic

This "Recall" ought to spice things up a bit. . . .


At least they enhanced the warranty.
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i've visited siennaclub.org a few times. their topics are pretty typical- like mechanical issues, how-to-do-this-and-that, and minor mods. it actually reminds me of priuschat.com, but without the mpg/environment talk.

anyways, i know of many families that have the 2nd generation sienna. i'll let them know about this.
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