WOW fanfan, you’re grasping at straws there. . . . I think I’d take a sticker misprint, or steering hose failure to a blown transmission, or tinfoil tailgate.
To borrow a common phrase by fanfan’s, “At least they’re stepping up and fixing the problems. . . .”
Ah i get it.
Some posts online about tail gates and Toyota's quality is slipping.
Some post online about Silverado's tranny problems and it's "tinfoil'
You are so transparent.
Your GM vehicle/job is really sucking the quality out of you. It's like a quality black hole when you post.
I'll compare 29 camshaft failures on 200000 units to any GM product any time.
i know why engineer posts here, why do you post here? To feel better about buying your truck?
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Who said anything about camshaft failures? I agree that is a resolved issue, however, nobody really knows how many more are still out there that have not failed yet.
I was referring to major tranny issues, tailgate issues, interior quality issues (painted dash, air vent, rattles and sqeaks, etc), exterior paint quality, sheet metal quality, bed floors denting from atv wheels, battery issues, and several others that are discussed regularly by owners at TS.
I don't post here much anymore, just when I see a topic that I have info on and can contribute to, even if it doesn't meet your approval. Why do you have a problem with it? I don't need to feel better about my truck, it is simply awesome and I can even jump up and down on my tailgate without it bending and/or ripping apart.
I own an 07 Tundra with the 5.7, the drivetrain is absolutely the best I have ever driven or owned (I have no tranny problems), I like the interior and how it is laid out....but Toyota should be ashamed of themselves with that tailgate it is an absolute piece of garbage. Glued together? They should recall the damn thing and replace them all, NOW. I dont feel safe putting one foot in the bed and one on the tailgate when its down, its that flimsy. I have to take the tailgate off to load my snowblower this winter? My last Tacoma had a better tailgate.
Having little money, which results in little quality. . . . .
or. . . .
Having an abundance of money, and choosing to build little quality. . . . .
Toyota would be wise to get back to its roots and remember what it was that allowed them to become the dominant automotive force they are today. Bucket loads of profits with little quality is how the domestics got into the hole they are currently digging themselves out of. . . .
I agree.
I believe that Toyota will turn things around. They really need to get back to their Japaneze roots and not let the American work ethic and business practices contaminate their way of doing business. It is hard to balance everything though, many things that applied in the past, no longer apply today.
Hopefully for us and themselves they will get everything worked out. Hopefully...
Whats better, most shareholders happy with the profits or a few customers dissapointed with their vehicles? .....Time will tell.
$100 GUY, you just hit us with 100 pounds of truth. . . .
I never thought of it that way, but shareholders pocket books may/do take priority over customer complaints. . . . . . It's a fact, Toyota is in this to make money, and they are posting record profits quarter over quarter. I think the share holders are quite happy, despite the drop in quality. Toyota could ride this "perceived quality" wave for another 10 years before the general public would take notice. Profits would still be high, so why fix the issues?
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$100 GUY, you just hit us with 100 pounds of truth. . . .
I never thought of it that way, but shareholders pocket books may/do take priority over customer complaints. . . . . . It's a fact, Toyota is in this to make money, and they are posting record profits quarter over quarter. I think the share holders are quite happy, despite the drop in quality. Toyota could ride this "perceived quality" wave for another 10 years before the general public would take notice. Profits would still be high, so why fix the issues?
In my opinion, Profits are better than customer satisfaction...
Once upon a time ago, Toyota used to consider customer satisfaction > profits. Until they grew to become a huge giant and got addicted to loads of cash, they decided lets multiply the profits by 10 and cut down quality on parts and fire some of the quality control guys.
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Toyota could ride this "perceived quality" wave for another 10 years before the general public would take notice. Profits would still be high, so why fix the issues?
Mostly because Toyota isn't that shortsighted or shallow when it comes to corporate values.
Having little money, which results in little quality. . . . .
or. . . .
Having an abundance of money, and choosing to build little quality. . . . .
Toyota would be wise to get back to its roots and remember what it was that allowed them to become the dominant automotive force they are today. Bucket loads of profits with little quality is how the domestics got into the hole they are currently digging themselves out of. . . .
Realistically they had a plan a few yrs back to shorten the design cycle to keep the new products flowing faster and faster. It probably resulted in shortcuts throughout the system. We are seeing the results now.
Last year they stopped and said that they were going back to a more traditional 5 or even 6 yr cycle and doing more verification. In addition the one single area that they have a shsortage in is engineering depth. Growth has been too fast frankly. Getting the Isuzu investment gave them access to an additional 1000 engineers.
Another 'ticklish' area of shortage is in the US market. It was said that they had a goal of 60% of sales being produced in NA. Sales in NA were growing faster than they could find and build plants. I think that they've pulled back from this goal as well. As an example at 2 million units annually and a 15% growth rate that means that they were adding 300,000 units in sales and by their goal they had to add 180,000 units of production here every year, year after year. This year they added Tx and the 100,000 Camry units at the new Subaru plant from GM. Next year they will add about 200,000 units of RAVs in Ontario and following that 200,000 Highlander units in Tupelo.
There's bound to be growing pains to be sure.
Now I see a new trend. They are far less agressive on pricing it appears. Raise the prices ...slow the growth. The new Highlander is a lot higher than before, ditto the hybrid version. The new Land Cruiser starts at $71000 and ends at $72500!!!! Tacomas used to be $22000 trucks. Now thy're $28000 trucks. We might see a $23000 Corolla in the spring!!! The only ones going in the other direction are the hybrid Camry and the Prius where the prices are going down. Lower the price...raise the growth.
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