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Old 01-11-2009, 01:15 PM   #91 (permalink)
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(no CE in Canada)
Only mentioned it for the americans xD

The Hybrid for once looks different than the gas counterparts =)
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:21 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Yuck i'm very appalled with the facelift. Also that chrome trim on the license plat garnish is very tacky.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:19 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:44 PM   #94 (permalink)
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I prefer the new looks of the Hybrid better than the LE, SE, XLE (no CE in Canada) also. The lease on my current Camry expires in just over a year (likely just after the introduction of the 2011 Camry, IF the 2010 model sticks around for only a year), and I may consider switching to the TCH. Hopefully by then, the TCH will come with the new 2AR + HSD drivetrain.
I'm starting to think that the 2AR will stick around until the redesign for the 2011/2012 model. Reason being that the Lexus HS 250h apparently has the same engine for its hybrid setup. Why introduce a new vehicle with an old engine if you don't plan to use that for a bit longer. Guessing here. I was wrong about the 2.7L from the Venza going into the Camry...its the 2.5L. Same new engine family tho
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:32 PM   #95 (permalink)
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I think I've got a post in here from many, many months ago saying that there was only room to go downhill in the "freshened" styling. My thoughts, now that I've seen it:

1. Headlights are indeed worse -- how could you change the classic, three same-sized-in-a-row elements without mucking it up a bit? Still, it's not too awful, from what I can tell.

2. Taillights are "changed for no good reason." I prefer to have amber turn signals at the high, outside location in a taillight assembly, which the original Gen 6 has. Refresh supposedly has LED's, but I suppose it remains to be seen what the "turn signals" will wind up being.

3. Grilles: Looks like there's some squaring of the logo area, "plus additional chrome." I presume the photo of the blue car is the XLE, with its newly chrome-ringed fog lamps. Looks like SE gets chrome around its grille, and a "fiercer" look to the whole front clip. Whoopee. Not too sure what to say about the hybrid. I prefer "more grille" than that, generally.

4. Other note: The rear-view picture is a new green color.

5. Other note: Satellite radio bump on the roof.

6. Other note: Looks like the end of the "teal blue" center console bits, replaced with plain old silver.

Bottom line? I usually haven't been too enthused with Toyota model refreshes -- "change some things for no good reason and add some extra chrome" pretty well sums it up for me. I think this is right in that same old bucket.
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Yeah styling wise I don't think it's a good change, not bad, but it's not better just different IMO.

But the upgrades to the SE 4-cylinder are fantastic. Makes me consider trading my XRS for one.

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Hydraulic pressure presses directly against the release bearing. It is used by other manufacturers. I'm not really a big fan of it, if it ever leaks, it's inside the bellhousing, meaning the tranny has to be removed, plus it will probably contaminate the clutch disc, etc.

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Which manufacturers use it? Yes, doesn't sound like a good idea, that's a lot of labor to replace something simple. Is this tranny currently used on anything else?
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Chevrolet uses it quite a bit, the Corvette has it. My 1994 Ford Ranger has the same type of setup as well.

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Old 01-13-2009, 08:21 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Chevrolet uses it quite a bit, the Corvette has it. My 1994 Ford Ranger has the same type of setup as well.

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Why use it? What is its purpose?
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Lighter, more compact, less parts.

Not serviceability though, haha.

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