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Old 02-15-2004, 02:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Supra Hybrid - 300 bhp

Road & Track, March 2004:

Toyota Supra Hybrid

Toyota will soon introduce a hybrid SUV based on the Lexus RX 330. And we hear that it will set the stage for Toyota's next big hybrid project, a sports car. It makes perfect sense for Toyota, a global leader in hybrid technology, to create a sports car with a hybrid twist. The new-wave Toyota 2+2 (below) is rumored to produce at least 300 bhp, sending power to all four wheels, using a similar system incorporated into the RX 330.
The CS&S concept car displayed at the Geneva auto show was apparently a tease. Rated at only 145 bhp, the CS&S was created to gauge public opinion of a possible hybrid sports car. The reaction from the media and public was good, so Toyota may have decided to go forward with the program. This 300-bhp hybrid sports car would fill the void left by the Supra a few years ago. - SM
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Old 02-15-2004, 02:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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But why? Who cares about saving gas if you have a sports car!@?!? Maybe cause electric motors are very torquey so you can get off the line quickly but I think the added weight would be more of a dissadvantage.
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Old 02-15-2004, 03:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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A hybrid sports car? NO
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Old 02-15-2004, 05:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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wow, i like it...

it WONT be called the supra, that's for sure...

but, atleast toyota will have a real sports car again...
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Old 02-15-2004, 05:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If it's fast and can save me a few bucks, especially at the pump, then I'm all for it.
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Old 02-15-2004, 09:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but the car in that pic is U-G-L-Y. I want the old supra with a facelift.
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Old 02-15-2004, 11:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I heard of some electric car that could do an 11 sec 1/4 mile. I forgget what it was called though.
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hybrid cars are the future of ALL cars. When they start to com eout with hybrid supra's you'll like them. The weight of the fuel cells won't be much of an issue. The incredible levels of torque produced by the motors will be giving cars 0-60 times like no other. Just an example, the new Toyota Prius has over 250ft/lbs of torque, under 1500 RPM's. Not a race car, but you get the point. When the application is made for a sports car then it will be good. It will be very good.
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I heard of some electric car that could do an 11 sec 1/4 mile. I forgget what it was called though.
it's called the t zero. there's a video of it beating a ferrari 355 on the internet somewhere. but who cares. i know for one i don't like the idea of a hybrid sports car. especially if it's going to be called a supra. for me, the supra will always be about the i-6, and a turbocharged one at that. who has ever told you that their heart raced at the sound of an electric motor at speed? i'm willing to guess no one. i don't know, call me a purist, i just don't like the idea.
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Just an example, the new Toyota Prius has over 250ft/lbs of torque, under 1500 RPM's. Not a race car, but you get the point. When the application is made for a sports car then it will be good. It will be very good.
250 ft/lbs?? Are you for real? Cos when I drive my pop's new prius, it's so frigging slow.... and passing power on the highway, forget about it.... i thought i had busted the tranny or something cos it felt like it was slipping!
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I heard of some electric car that could do an 11 sec 1/4 mile. I forgget what it was called though.
Yeah but cars like that have no recharging mechanism and can only run for a few minutes at a time.
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How do you think the Prius gets juice?

The motor is the recharging mechanism. The motors would only be used when there is hard accelerating. The rest of the time, cruising at near constant speed the gasoling motor is using the electirc motors as generators.

And yeah, I'm serious, 295ft/lbs 0-1200 RPM.

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/prius/specs.html
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T Zero has a 100 mile range and can charge in an hour. Not bad for an electric car that quick

http://www.acpropulsion.com/tzero_pages/tzero_home.htm
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Old 02-15-2004, 08:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well, remember, the new NSX was supposed to be hybird, but that fell thru and it will have a phat V6 good for 350-400 HP IIRC.

Who knows. I just want to see a fast rear or AWD Toyota!
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