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Originally posted by jayboogie
sell you car and buy a 6Cyl or a V8 if that's your attitude. not saying it can't be done, but it'll cost double to get a n/a 4cyl to where a turbo or s/c 4cyl will be at.
nevertheless, our cars can be made relatively quick on any race platform without using forced induction, and be made super-duper quick... but why make things more dificult for yourself and spend all that money?
and did you read the light tune guide that i posted on your previous topic?
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...ning_guide.htm
start out with this, see how your car performs, THEN make big plans.
it's not like youre going to buy a turbo or bore out your car or do something crazy to RIGHT NOW.
youre at a stage before me: what i want to do, is lightly tune my car (intake, headers, exhaust)... and then ill go from there, whether itll be a JDM GZE clip or a full-on 20v swap.
why do you think ae92's in japan were given a GZE? toyota engineers had enough common sense to add speed to their car, beit forced induction or not to make their already peppy downhill and circuit racers even faster.
drop 10K on a n/a 4A-GE-16v and it'll run 12's.
drop 5k on a n/a 440 and it'll run 11's.
(random figure, it's just to get my point across.)
and there's nothing wrong with any other car that goes zoom. a fast car is a fast car, whether it be a honda or not.
i would reccomend not generating a pre-hate hate towards honda's, mitsubishi's or subaru's, or any car in general. it's just like imports vs. domestics thing - except this is which import is considered rice.
it sounds like youre most probably in high school. IMO? setup your car for where you wanna go and how fast you you want to do it. forced induction or not. rather than ignoring an option of a GZE swap or a turbo, feel free to bolt it on and then laugh at your friends who can ONLY run 9 psi without blowing their engine.
depending on where you live, i doubt there are any 13-low 14 second street cars at your school.
but if you reaaaally want an n/a engine then that's fine - whatever makes you happy. but thats a bit juvenile reason to not used forced induction.
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OK first of all, I'm not in High School, I'm no longer in college either.....I happen to be 27 and my reasons for not using forced induction are of no concern to this anyway, Chris S asked and I answered....You missed the point of my WHOLE discussion, I don't want horsepower on par with a turbo or S/C, I want N/A. I don't feel that a car as small as this needs 300+ HP. I figured on swapping out to a silvertop 20v, that jumps me immediately to 165hp from 120hp. Now, if I rework the cams, intake, exhaust, and all that happy stuff then I'll be up to I guessed around 220hp. I'm probably overshooting but oh well....Thats where I wanna be....I said it repeatedly....I DO NOT WANT A FULL OUT RACECAR!!!!!!!!!!! I want something thats fast but I can still take on the road...thsi is my daily driver....
Yes I read the light tuning thing....I even printed it out to keep a copy.....good ideas....but not MY ideas....do you see?....the WHOLE point to this was to try something not alot of people are doing....most of you have turbos or a S/C, Right? Well I don't want them...
And your comment on what I said about other cars...who the F are you to tell me what I can and cannot say about other vehicles....If I feel like saying all cars that are NOT Toyotas eat a dick, well then I can say it because its my F-in opinion...besides I wrote that to try to get a few laughs from you people...most of you are WAY to uptight about this crap....its a car...more importantly its MY car...what I do and what I want are for me and no one else.....all I asked for was a little help from some educated ppl....people who have been thru it and know a hell of a lot more than me....and explain to me how wanting a N/A engine is juvenile reasoning for not wanting forced induction as you put it...
Let me put it into perspective for you....one of the reasons I chose a Corolla was because a '68 Superbee or any true muscle car from the 50s, 60s, or 70s would cost triple to work over.....
I'm sorry I got a little rude right there, I must apologize, you struck a chord there,I just don't like ppl questioning my opinions when all they know is what they read....you don't feel the same as me on this, well I commend you for having the guts to say it....
