HELP! HELP! HELP! OH MY GOD, DIESEL GAS IN MY HIGHLANDER!!

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>news:gmhjk1dh7ke5pk33dap1eqfjsuk9ebhn5f@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Diesel is MORE expensive than Premium gasoline, Gord.[/color]
>>
>> I realize that this post is several days old but I didn't have
>> good hard facts at hand to answer it so I held off till today.
>>
>> At least here on PEI in Eastern Canada, diesel fuel is about 10
>> cents per litre cheaper than high test gasoline. That's (of
>> course) about 40 cents a gallon cheaper, and while not much
>> cheaper, it IS cheaper. I asked my Brother-in-Law this question.
>>
>> He owns a back-hoe and a tractor-trailer to move it around plus a
>> half ton GMC truck all of which have diesel engines. He also owns
>> a Honda car so I suspect that he knows whereof he speaks.
>>
>> So there you go, I didn't want you labouring under a
>> misapprehension there Philip...
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.[/color]
>
>
>There are several "excuses" given for the price of road diesel here in CA.
>I refueld the little truck tonigh with diesel. This was a cut rate station.
>Diesel $3.25, Premium $2.99, Unleaded+ $2.89, Unleaded $2.79. Now Off
>Road diesel is about $2.65 (all prices are US gallons, and US dollars).[/color]

Yep, ok.

I guess we'll just have to scratch our heads and say WTF then...

There sure doesn't seem much sense in POL prices nowadays does
there?
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that was
getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel for
many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had been
charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)

mike hunt


"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:gmhjk1dh7ke5pk33dap1eqfjsuk9ebhn5f@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>>Diesel is MORE expensive than Premium gasoline, Gord.
>>>
>>> I realize that this post is several days old but I didn't have
>>> good hard facts at hand to answer it so I held off till today.
>>>
>>> At least here on PEI in Eastern Canada, diesel fuel is about 10
>>> cents per litre cheaper than high test gasoline. That's (of
>>> course) about 40 cents a gallon cheaper, and while not much
>>> cheaper, it IS cheaper. I asked my Brother-in-Law this question.
>>>
>>> He owns a back-hoe and a tractor-trailer to move it around plus a
>>> half ton GMC truck all of which have diesel engines. He also owns
>>> a Honda car so I suspect that he knows whereof he speaks.
>>>
>>> So there you go, I didn't want you labouring under a
>>> misapprehension there Philip...
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.[/color]
>>
>>
>>There are several "excuses" given for the price of road diesel here in CA.
>>I refueld the little truck tonigh with diesel. This was a cut rate
>>station.
>>Diesel $3.25, Premium $2.99, Unleaded+ $2.89, Unleaded $2.79. Now Off
>>Road diesel is about $2.65 (all prices are US gallons, and US dollars).[/color]
>
> Yep, ok.
>
> I guess we'll just have to scratch our heads and say WTF then...
>
> There sure doesn't seem much sense in POL prices nowadays does
> there?
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:34:43 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
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>There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that was
>getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel for
>many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
>cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had been
>charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
>taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
>
>mike hunt[/color]


IOW....keep your f*ing mouth shut....

--

Scott in Florida

Still Voting Democratic?

You are Stuck On Stupid!

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:gmhjk1dh7ke5pk33dap1eqfjsuk9ebhn5f@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>>Diesel is MORE expensive than Premium gasoline, Gord.
>>>
>>> I realize that this post is several days old but I didn't have
>>> good hard facts at hand to answer it so I held off till today.
>>>
>>> At least here on PEI in Eastern Canada, diesel fuel is about 10
>>> cents per litre cheaper than high test gasoline. That's (of
>>> course) about 40 cents a gallon cheaper, and while not much
>>> cheaper, it IS cheaper. I asked my Brother-in-Law this question.
>>>
>>> He owns a back-hoe and a tractor-trailer to move it around plus a
>>> half ton GMC truck all of which have diesel engines. He also owns
>>> a Honda car so I suspect that he knows whereof he speaks.
>>>
>>> So there you go, I didn't want you labouring under a
>>> misapprehension there Philip...
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.[/color]
>>
>>
>>There are several "excuses" given for the price of road diesel here in CA.
>>I refueld the little truck tonigh with diesel. This was a cut rate
>>station.
>>Diesel $3.25, Premium $2.99, Unleaded+ $2.89, Unleaded $2.79. Now Off
>>Road diesel is about $2.65 (all prices are US gallons, and US dollars).[/color]
>
> Yep, ok.
>
> I guess we'll just have to scratch our heads and say WTF then...
>
> There sure doesn't seem much sense in POL prices nowadays does
> there?
> --
>
> -Gord.[/color]

Two main reasons road diesel fuel is so high in California are the taxes
levied and the sweetheart deal struck between the state and the refiners
that require CA diesel fuel to be lower sulfur than anywhere else in the US
(methinks its about 30ppm currently) and that NO fuel can be imported from
outside CA even if said fuel meets all the CA specifications. Recent news
item read that if that sweetheart deal was terminated, CA diesel would drop
nearly 60 cents per gallon.

Trust your government to screw the taxpayer.
--

- Philip

I'm familiar. You CANNOT just pour used deep fryer oil into your diesel
tank and drive away. To do so requires onboard heating and several stage
filtration ... not to mention that the fryer oil you get cannot have had any
animal or fish fried in it. Vegetables only.

I'd like to see the particular article or at least a clue what paper or news
source you read regarding road fuel taxes.
--

- Philip

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:XgydnZV7ENG4BdfeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that
> was getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB
> diesel for many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on
> the free cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that
> he had been charge by the federal and state government for not paying road
> fuel use taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:6r4lk11dl6ps3n1b13ljjma80vib6uqmq5@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>>news:gmhjk1dh7ke5pk33dap1eqfjsuk9ebhn5f@4ax.com...
>>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>>>Diesel is MORE expensive than Premium gasoline, Gord.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that this post is several days old but I didn't have
>>>> good hard facts at hand to answer it so I held off till today.
>>>>
>>>> At least here on PEI in Eastern Canada, diesel fuel is about 10
>>>> cents per litre cheaper than high test gasoline. That's (of
>>>> course) about 40 cents a gallon cheaper, and while not much
>>>> cheaper, it IS cheaper. I asked my Brother-in-Law this question.
>>>>
>>>> He owns a back-hoe and a tractor-trailer to move it around plus a
>>>> half ton GMC truck all of which have diesel engines. He also owns
>>>> a Honda car so I suspect that he knows whereof he speaks.
>>>>
>>>> So there you go, I didn't want you labouring under a
>>>> misapprehension there Philip...
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Gord.
>>>
>>>
>>>There are several "excuses" given for the price of road diesel here in
>>>CA.
>>>I refueld the little truck tonigh with diesel. This was a cut rate
>>>station.
>>>Diesel $3.25, Premium $2.99, Unleaded+ $2.89, Unleaded $2.79. Now Off
>>>Road diesel is about $2.65 (all prices are US gallons, and US dollars).[/color]
>>
>> Yep, ok.
>>
>> I guess we'll just have to scratch our heads and say WTF then...
>>
>> There sure doesn't seem much sense in POL prices nowadays does
>> there?
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:CPx2f.12578$QE1.2638@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> I'm familiar. You CANNOT just pour used deep fryer oil into your diesel
> tank and drive away. To do so requires onboard heating and several stage
> filtration ... not to mention that the fryer oil you get cannot have had
> any animal or fish fried in it. Vegetables only.[/color]

Poor man's bio-diesel? Why can't the fryer oil have any animal or fish? Is
it because of the smell or different kind of fat and oils in animal
products? It would be kind or ironic if a vegan tree-hugger fount out he
was burning animal products in his engine.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that was
>getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel for
>many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
>cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had been
>charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
>taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
>
>mike hunt
>[/color]

Hell, he shudda been smarter and sold advertising space on the
back of his MB to McD for a sign saying "Guess what the exhaust
from this car smells like and get an order of our fries at 10%
off!!"
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I'm familiar. You CANNOT just pour used deep fryer oil into your diesel
>tank and drive away. To do so requires onboard heating and several stage
>filtration ... not to mention that the fryer oil you get cannot have had any
>animal or fish fried in it. Vegetables only.
>
>I'd like to see the particular article or at least a clue what paper or news
>source you read regarding road fuel taxes.[/color]

I have a friend here who used to heat his and his mother's house
with used motor oil. He had a metal Quonset hut with a big tank
for the oil and a special oil fired furnace in it. He ran
insulated water pipes underground to both houses and had a big
husky half ton truck with a big oil tank and pump on it...he'd go
around to a particular bunch of dealerships and dispose of all of
their waste oil...a win win situation... :)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>news:6r4lk11dl6ps3n1b13ljjma80vib6uqmq5@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>>news:gmhjk1dh7ke5pk33dap1eqfjsuk9ebhn5f@4ax.com...
>>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>>>Diesel is MORE expensive than Premium gasoline, Gord.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that this post is several days old but I didn't have
>>>> good hard facts at hand to answer it so I held off till today.
>>>>
>>>> At least here on PEI in Eastern Canada, diesel fuel is about 10
>>>> cents per litre cheaper than high test gasoline. That's (of
>>>> course) about 40 cents a gallon cheaper, and while not much
>>>> cheaper, it IS cheaper. I asked my Brother-in-Law this question.
>>>>
>>>> He owns a back-hoe and a tractor-trailer to move it around plus a
>>>> half ton GMC truck all of which have diesel engines. He also owns
>>>> a Honda car so I suspect that he knows whereof he speaks.
>>>>
>>>> So there you go, I didn't want you labouring under a
>>>> misapprehension there Philip...
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Gord.
>>>
>>>
>>>There are several "excuses" given for the price of road diesel here in CA.
>>>I refueld the little truck tonigh with diesel. This was a cut rate
>>>station.
>>>Diesel $3.25, Premium $2.99, Unleaded+ $2.89, Unleaded $2.79. Now Off
>>>Road diesel is about $2.65 (all prices are US gallons, and US dollars).[/color]
>>
>> Yep, ok.
>>
>> I guess we'll just have to scratch our heads and say WTF then...
>>
>> There sure doesn't seem much sense in POL prices nowadays does
>> there?
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.[/color]
>
>Two main reasons road diesel fuel is so high in California are the taxes
>levied and the sweetheart deal struck between the state and the refiners
>that require CA diesel fuel to be lower sulfur than anywhere else in the US
>(methinks its about 30ppm currently) and that NO fuel can be imported from
>outside CA even if said fuel meets all the CA specifications. Recent news
>item read that if that sweetheart deal was terminated, CA diesel would drop
>nearly 60 cents per gallon.
>
>Trust your government to screw the taxpayer.[/color]

Well, I can see the reasoning behind having rigid specs but that
nasty clause about 'no imports even though the specs are
maintained' sounds illegal to me...another of those "We agree
with Free Trade as long as it meets our rules"...something like
the West Coast's softwood lumber situation.
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in message
news:4adb5$434ab277$44a4a10d$557@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:CPx2f.12578$QE1.2638@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> I'm familiar. You CANNOT just pour used deep fryer oil into your diesel
>> tank and drive away. To do so requires onboard heating and several stage
>> filtration ... not to mention that the fryer oil you get cannot have had
>> any animal or fish fried in it. Vegetables only.[/color]
>
> Poor man's bio-diesel? Why can't the fryer oil have any animal or fish?
> Is it because of the smell or different kind of fat and oils in animal
> products?[/color]

The latter ... for the most part.
[color=blue]
>It would be kind or ironic if a vegan tree-hugger found out he was burning
>animal products in his engine.
> --
> Ray O[/color]

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:8selk1tqn53lsv5ju6d6kvavf6m4in7ebf@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that
>>was
>>getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel
>>for
>>many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
>>cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had
>>been
>>charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
>>taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
>>
>>mike hunt
>>[/color]
>
> Hell, he shudda been smarter and sold advertising space on the
> back of his MB to McD for a sign saying "Guess what the exhaust
> from this car smells like and get an order of our fries at 10%
> off!!"
> --
>
> -Gord.[/color]

"Fast Food makes this car GO!"

I'l bet whne he dove down the street many of the kids on the conror where
asking if he wanted cheese with that. LOL

mike hunt


"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:8selk1tqn53lsv5ju6d6kvavf6m4in7ebf@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that
>>was
>>getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel
>>for
>>many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
>>cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had
>>been
>>charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
>>taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
>>
>>mike hunt
>>[/color]
>
> Hell, he shudda been smarter and sold advertising space on the
> back of his MB to McD for a sign saying "Guess what the exhaust
> from this car smells like and get an order of our fries at 10%
> off!!"
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

Drain oil heating systems are common in the northeast. One of our stores
used drain oil from our surrounding stores. ;)

mike hunt
"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:o6flk1h1419acpe91a0qkm12esh0gkphli@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I'm familiar. You CANNOT just pour used deep fryer oil into your diesel
>>tank and drive away. To do so requires onboard heating and several stage
>>filtration ... not to mention that the fryer oil you get cannot have had
>>any
>>animal or fish fried in it. Vegetables only.
>>
>>I'd like to see the particular article or at least a clue what paper or
>>news
>>source you read regarding road fuel taxes.[/color]
>
> I have a friend here who used to heat his and his mother's house
> with used motor oil. He had a metal Quonset hut with a big tank
> for the oil and a special oil fired furnace in it. He ran
> insulated water pipes underground to both houses and had a big
> husky half ton truck with a big oil tank and pump on it...he'd go
> around to a particular bunch of dealerships and dispose of all of
> their waste oil...a win win situation... :)
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

I bought a half tank of B100 biodiesel yesterday. The stuff is not that
much more than regular petro diesel now ($3.60 vs. $3.30). Several things
about this batch, which is made from 100% soy. It's dark honey colored. I
smells a bit like oil base house paint. It's VERY oily compared to petro
diesel. And the exhaust smell is reminiscent of model air plane exhaust. If
you were to refine vegetable oil that had potatoes cooked in it, you'd get
the French fry exhaust. Peanuts .... a nutty smell. There are at least 50
different seeds that make acceptable bio-diesel fuel.
--

- Philip


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:c-WcnU_VfMWVhdHeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> I'l bet whne he dove down the street many of the kids on the conror where
> asking if he wanted cheese with that. LOL
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:8selk1tqn53lsv5ju6d6kvavf6m4in7ebf@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that
>>>was
>>>getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel
>>>for
>>>many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
>>>cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had
>>>been
>>>charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
>>>taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
>>>
>>>mike hunt
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Hell, he shudda been smarter and sold advertising space on the
>> back of his MB to McD for a sign saying "Guess what the exhaust
>> from this car smells like and get an order of our fries at 10%
>> off!!"
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I'l bet whne he dove down the street many of the kids on the conror where
>asking if he wanted cheese with that. LOL
>
>mike hunt
>
>[/color]

"I like riding to work with you every day but I'm gaining weight
like crazy...I can hardly wait for lunch" :)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)