OT: Stolen again (racist?)

Stole this from another group:
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> : You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
> You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and even "The Man" and you think
> it's OK.
> But when I call you, "******", "Kike", "Towelhead", "Sand-******", "Camel
> Jockey", "Beaner" or "Chink" you call me a racist.
>
>
> You say that you want to make a change in this country.
> How? By protesting everything that we believe in? By trying to change
> everything that has made this country run fine for centuries?
>
> You have Martin Luther King Day.
> You have Cesar Chavez Day.
> You have Yom Hashoah
> You have Cinco de Mayo
> You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
> You have BET.
>
> If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists.
>
> If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.
>
> If we had white history month, we'd be racists.
>
> In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race
> and rights.
> If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us the KKK.
>
> You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid
> to announce it.
> But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
>
> You call each other "niggas", but when we call you that, you call us
> racists.
>
> You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
> But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a
> black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you
> call him a racist.
>
> When was the last time you saw Jessie Jackson involved with anything to do
> with white people.
>
> We work hard to perserve our history.
> You come along and try to re-write it.
>
> We want a safe environment for our families and children.
> You want to bring the ghetto to our neighborhoods.
>
> I am white.
> I am proud.
> I am an American.
>
> But, you call me a racist.
> Why is it that only whites can be racists?
> Don't do reverse discrimination, take your own advice.
>
> Everyone is a racist to some degree. Whether you're black, white, asian, or
> green for all I care. This is a neverending fight.....people will always be
> racist. So learn to live with it.[/color]

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.10.09.16.29.34.970904@ae86.gts...[color=blue]
> Stole this from another group:
>[color=green]
>> : You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
>> You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and even "The Man" and you
>> think
>> it's OK.
>> But when I call you, "******", "Kike", "Towelhead", "Sand-******", "Camel
>> Jockey", "Beaner" or "Chink" you call me a racist.
>>
>>
>> You say that you want to make a change in this country.
>> How? By protesting everything that we believe in? By trying to change
>> everything that has made this country run fine for centuries?
>>
>> You have Martin Luther King Day.
>> You have Cesar Chavez Day.
>> You have Yom Hashoah
>> You have Cinco de Mayo
>> You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
>> You have BET.
>>
>> If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists.
>>
>> If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.
>>
>> If we had white history month, we'd be racists.
>>
>> In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your
>> race
>> and rights.
>> If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us the KKK.
>>
>> You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not
>> afraid
>> to announce it.
>> But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
>>
>> You call each other "niggas", but when we call you that, you call us
>> racists.
>>
>> You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
>> But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a
>> black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society,
>> you
>> call him a racist.
>>
>> When was the last time you saw Jessie Jackson involved with anything to
>> do
>> with white people.
>>
>> We work hard to perserve our history.
>> You come along and try to re-write it.
>>
>> We want a safe environment for our families and children.
>> You want to bring the ghetto to our neighborhoods.
>>
>> I am white.
>> I am proud.
>> I am an American.
>>
>> But, you call me a racist.
>> Why is it that only whites can be racists?
>> Don't do reverse discrimination, take your own advice.
>>
>> Everyone is a racist to some degree. Whether you're black, white, asian,
>> or
>> green for all I care. This is a neverending fight.....people will always
>> be
>> racist. So learn to live with it.[/color][/color]

I'm not white nor black but agree with this. There is a double standard out
there and a double dose of hypocrisy. There are racists of every color and
creed. Of course I am not perfect and realize this but still try to better
myself. Other people need to understand they are not perfect either and
LEARN from others.

I have friends of many different colors and religions and when we get
together we don't see each other as that, but as FRIENDS. That's the way it
should be.

My .02 cents.
-Dave

....Why is it, some "black" people prefer to be called "African Americans"
but still call "white" people, white???

"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVE@MEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GImdnRdOZODuydTeRVn-iA@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.10.09.16.29.34.970904@ae86.gts...[color=green]
>> Stole this from another group:[/color]
>
> I'm not white nor black but agree with this. There is a double standard
> out there and a double dose of hypocrisy. There are racists of every
> color and creed. Of course I am not perfect and realize this but still
> try to better myself. Other people need to understand they are not
> perfect either and LEARN from others.
>
> I have friends of many different colors and religions and when we get
> together we don't see each other as that, but as FRIENDS. That's the way
> it should be.
>
> My .02 cents.
> -Dave
>
> ...Why is it, some "black" people prefer to be called "African Americans"
> but still call "white" people, white???
>[/color]
So you agree with this comment too?
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Everyone is a racist to some degree. Whether you're black, white, asian,
>>> or
>>> green for all I care. This is a neverending fight.....people will always
>>> be
>>> racist. So learn to live with it.[/color][/color][/color]


Bullshit - fight it - fight it no matter *who* is doing it, or it will only
get worse

Natalie

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.10.09.19.01.49.198487@ae86.gts...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:22:00 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.10.09.16.29.34.970904@ae86.gts...[color=darkred]
>>> Stole this from another group:[/color]
>>
>> *snip*
>>
>> Racist
>>
>> The point could be made without the acrimony and finger-pointing. The
>> only
>> thing that I totally agree with in this post is that there will always be
>> racism - the 'learn to live with it' is bullshit. It should always be
>> fought against.
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
>
> 1. I said it was 'stolen'. There are a lot of points I agreewith. not all.[/color]

The gist of it could be very positive - of course there are racists from all
backgrounds. What I especially found unnecessary was the gratuitous use of
racial/ethnic slurs. We don't need to see those again, and that includes
the anti-caucasian slurs as well.[color=blue]
>
> 2. It WAS originally posted by a Racist Bigot of enormous proportions.[/color]

And yet you share it here? Thanks. *wiping the excess sarcasm off the
keyboard*[color=blue]
>
> 3. It is not Gospel, but an indication of what has happened.[/color]

Don't even use the word 'Gospel' in relation to that toad.[color=blue]
>
> You may be Black, Natalie, but you are an American. I love Americans.
> What I don't love is everybody coming HERE trying to move America away
> from American ideals and principles. If you come here but can't accept
> America, you need to leave.[/color]

But the country was founded on freedom - like it or not, that's for
*everyone*[color=blue]
>
> And this is pointed more at the pointy headed Academics that want to not
> fly the flag, that want to not say Merry Christmas (at all), that want to
> change America to a PC collection of people instead of the great nation it
> was.[/color]

I think PC is a bunch of shit for the most part too, but this country was
supposed to be founded on individual freedoms. Majority rule is a factor,
but if you take away *anyone's* right to dissent (Religiously or otherwise),
you diminish the whole. I'd personally love to see prayer in schools again
(God knows that's where we need it most), but I can appreciate the view from
the other side.

Natalie

Wickeddoll® wrote:[color=blue]
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.10.09.19.01.49.198487@ae86.gts...[color=green]
> > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:22:00 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> >> news:pan.2005.10.09.16.29.34.970904@ae86.gts...
> >>> Stole this from another group:
> >>
> >> *snip*
> >>
> >> Racist
> >>
> >> The point could be made without the acrimony and finger-pointing. The
> >> only
> >> thing that I totally agree with in this post is that there will alwaysbe
> >> racism - the 'learn to live with it' is bullshit. It should always be
> >> fought against.
> >>
> >> Natalie[/color]
> >
> >
> > 1. I said it was 'stolen'. There are a lot of points I agreewith. not all.[/color]
>
> The gist of it could be very positive - of course there are racists from all
> backgrounds. What I especially found unnecessary was the gratuitous use of
> racial/ethnic slurs. We don't need to see those again, and that includes
> the anti-caucasian slurs as well.[color=green]
> >
> > 2. It WAS originally posted by a Racist Bigot of enormous proportions.[/color]
>
> And yet you share it here? Thanks. *wiping the excess sarcasm off the
> keyboard*[/color]

Heh... sometimes its better to just judge a book by its cover.
[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > 3. It is not Gospel, but an indication of what has happened.[/color]
>
> Don't even use the word 'Gospel' in relation to that toad.[/color]

or any toad.
[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > You may be Black, Natalie, but you are an American. I love Americans.[/color][/color]

Americans are lazy (or want to be) which I find to be an admirable
quality.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > What I don't love is everybody coming HERE trying to move America away
> > from American ideals and principles. If you come here but can't accept
> > America, you need to leave.[/color][/color]

If you can't change America, go to Canada.
[color=blue]
>
> But the country was founded on freedom - like it or not, that's for
> *everyone*[/color]

God bless America
[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > And this is pointed more at the pointy headed Academics that want to not
> > fly the flag, that want to not say Merry Christmas (at all), that want to
> > change America to a PC collection of people instead of the great nationit
> > was.[/color]
>
> I think PC is a bunch of shit for the most part too, but this country was[/color]

PC is a sophomoric attempt at cultural sensitivity
[color=blue]
> supposed to be founded on individual freedoms. Majority rule is a factor,[/color]

unless you're talking about the 2000 Presidential election
[color=blue]
> but if you take away *anyone's* right to dissent (Religiously or otherwise),[/color]

dissent is the very definition of our freedom
[color=blue]
> you diminish the whole. I'd personally love to see prayer in schools again
> (God knows that's where we need it most), but I can appreciate the view from
> the other side.[/color]

There's still no athiests in fox holes. Thats good enough for me. For
now at least.

Look at how the Conservatives are praying.

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 15:04:20 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.10.09.19.01.49.198487@ae86.gts...[color=green]
>> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:22:00 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2005.10.09.16.29.34.970904@ae86.gts...
>>>> Stole this from another group:
>>>
>>> *snip*
>>>
>>> Racist
>>>
>>> The point could be made without the acrimony and finger-pointing. The
>>> only
>>> thing that I totally agree with in this post is that there will always be
>>> racism - the 'learn to live with it' is bullshit. It should always be
>>> fought against.
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>>
>> 1. I said it was 'stolen'. There are a lot of points I agreewith. not all.[/color]
>
> The gist of it could be very positive - of course there are racists from all
> backgrounds. What I especially found unnecessary was the gratuitous use of
> racial/ethnic slurs. We don't need to see those again, and that includes
> the anti-caucasian slurs as well.[/color]

I know, Nat; I copied it unedited.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> 2. It WAS originally posted by a Racist Bigot of enormous proportions.[/color]
>
> And yet you share it here? Thanks. *wiping the excess sarcasm off the
> keyboard*[/color]

As a Conservative, I agree with the overall message conveyed.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> 3. It is not Gospel, but an indication of what has happened.[/color]
>
> Don't even use the word 'Gospel' in relation to that toad.[/color]

Ow!
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> You may be Black, Natalie, but you are an American. I love Americans.
>> What I don't love is everybody coming HERE trying to move America away
>> from American ideals and principles. If you come here but can't accept
>> America, you need to leave.[/color]
>
> But the country was founded on freedom - like it or not, that's for
> *everyone*[/color]

This is true. The point of the article was meant to be (for me, anyway)
two ideas. This is the US, and we HAVE our custome and our culture. Those
of us that were born here (generally) follow these, as this was the
composition of our country.

This does NOT exclude anyone from observing whatever they wish. Just don't
do away with the established culture of the US.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> And this is pointed more at the pointy headed Academics that want to not
>> fly the flag, that want to not say Merry Christmas (at all), that want to
>> change America to a PC collection of people instead of the great nation it
>> was.[/color]
>
> I think PC is a bunch of shit for the most part too, but this country was
> supposed to be founded on individual freedoms. Majority rule is a factor,
> but if you take away *anyone's* right to dissent (Religiously or otherwise),
> you diminish the whole. I'd personally love to see prayer in schools again
> (God knows that's where we need it most), but I can appreciate the view from
> the other side.
>
> Natalie[/color]


I agree with that statement 100%.

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:54:20 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:

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>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > What I don't love is everybody coming HERE trying to move America away
>> > from American ideals and principles. If you come here but can't accept
>> > America, you need to leave.[/color][/color]
>
> If you can't change America, go to Canada.[/color]

They resist change more than we do!

On 9 Oct 2005 12:54:20 -0700, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Americans are lazy (or want to be) which I find to be an admirable
>quality.[/color]

You go, girl!