Re: 2005 Tacoma Daytime Running Lights

Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my Corolla
within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is becoming more
questionable ... except in Canada and other higher latitudes.


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Why would you want to do that?
>
> Driving with the lights on has been a safety standard for well over a
> decade, perhaps two decades. They finally installed a device that gives
> lights in day time, and you want to defeat it?
>
>
> <uhleeka@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1129000457.422338.294130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> I'm looking for a way to disable the DRL's on my 2005 tacoma. All the
>> articles I've found are for pre 2004. Any help is much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> uhleeka
>>[/color]
>[/color]

To be sure, I think DRLs are silly, but I think that because I think that
the headlamps should be ON, not on half-way, or a different set of lights
on.

Why not just turn the head lamps ON and be finished with it. Turn all of the
damn lights on for that matter. If the motor is running, the lights should
be on.




"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my
> Corolla within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is
> becoming more questionable ... except in Canada and other higher
> latitudes.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uuadncdqUNIM0NHeRVn-hw@ez2.net...[color=green]
>> Why would you want to do that?
>>
>> Driving with the lights on has been a safety standard for well over a
>> decade, perhaps two decades. They finally installed a device that gives
>> lights in day time, and you want to defeat it?
>>
>>
>> <uhleeka@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1129000457.422338.294130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>> I'm looking for a way to disable the DRL's on my 2005 tacoma. All the
>>> articles I've found are for pre 2004. Any help is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> uhleeka
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind, clinically
dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car. Lights aren't
such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving lights don't draw as
much current as headlights. Headlights (like other high current accessories)
actually affect gas mileage.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> To be sure, I think DRLs are silly, but I think that because I think that
> the headlamps should be ON, not on half-way, or a different set of lights
> on.
>
> Why not just turn the head lamps ON and be finished with it. Turn all of
> the damn lights on for that matter. If the motor is running, the lights
> should be on.
>
>
>
>
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0sZ2f.12527$vw6.10185@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my
>> Corolla within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is
>> becoming more questionable ... except in Canada and other higher
>> latitudes.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:uuadncdqUNIM0NHeRVn-hw@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Why would you want to do that?
>>>
>>> Driving with the lights on has been a safety standard for well over a
>>> decade, perhaps two decades. They finally installed a device that gives
>>> lights in day time, and you want to defeat it?
>>>
>>>
>>> <uhleeka@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1129000457.422338.294130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I'm looking for a way to disable the DRL's on my 2005 tacoma. All the
>>>> articles I've found are for pre 2004. Any help is much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> uhleeka
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my
> Corolla within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is
> becoming more questionable ... except in Canada and other higher
> latitudes.[/color]



*Some* parts of Canada. We're about on the same level as Detroit MI and
Portland OR.

ME, VT, and parts of NY State are much higher than us. Would you force DRLs
on them?

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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:0sZ2f.12527$vw6.10185@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>[color=green]
>> Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my
>> Corolla within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is
>> becoming more questionable ... except in Canada and other higher
>> latitudes.[/color]
>
>
>
> *Some* parts of Canada. We're about on the same level as Detroit MI and
> Portland OR.
>
> ME, VT, and parts of NY State are much higher than us. Would you force
> DRLs
> on them?
>[/color]

Well, it's easier to force lights than it is to force drivers to drive
defensively.

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> --
> TeGGeR®
>[/color]

"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind, clinically
> dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car. Lights aren't
> such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving lights don't draw
> as much current as headlights. Headlights (like other high current
> accessories) actually affect gas mileage.
>[/color]

So?

It's a very small price to pay for the safety. The difference is in DRLs and
Full ON headlamps, not the difference in OFF or ON.

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:0sZ2f.12527$vw6.10185@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>[color=green]
>> Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my
>> Corolla within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is
>> becoming more questionable ... except in Canada and other higher
>> latitudes.[/color]
>
>
>
> *Some* parts of Canada. We're about on the same level as Detroit MI and
> Portland OR.
>
> ME, VT, and parts of NY State are much higher than us. Would you force
> DRLs
> on them?
>
> --
> TeGGeR®[/color]

I would recind whatever legal measures are motivating manufacturers to have
some of their models DRL equipped. Return full headlamp control and use
descretion to the driver.
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- Philip

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AFZ2f.1454$647.1182@news01.roc.ny...[color=green]
>> 90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind,
>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car.
>> Lights aren't such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving
>> lights don't draw as much current as headlights. Headlights (like other
>> high current accessories) actually affect gas mileage.
>>[/color]
>
> So?
>
> It's a very small price to pay for the safety. The difference is in DRLs
> and Full ON headlamps, not the difference in OFF or ON.[/color]

I don't know the precise difference, in terms of the mechanical resistance
presented to the engine via the extra draw on the alternator. All I can say
is that when the headlights go on, the RPMs go down quite noticeably. But,
at the same time, I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to disconnect the
running lights. I guess I'm fair and balanced.

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns96ECDAF39D6FEtegger@207.14.113.17...[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:0sZ2f.12527$vw6.10185@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Maybe where you live but I made a point to deactivate the DRL in my
>>> Corolla within a couple of months. Their alleged safety benefit is
>>> becoming more questionable ... except in Canada and other higher
>>> latitudes.[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> *Some* parts of Canada. We're about on the same level as Detroit MI
>> and Portland OR.
>>
>> ME, VT, and parts of NY State are much higher than us. Would you
>> force DRLs
>> on them?
>>[/color]
>
> I would recind whatever legal measures are motivating manufacturers to
> have some of their models DRL equipped. Return full headlamp control
> and use descretion to the driver.[/color]



Stop it. You're making too much sense, and that will never get you anywhere
in THIS world.

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:21:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
<ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:0oCdnbvP1P4X9tHeRVn-jw@ez2.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:AFZ2f.1454$647.1182@news01.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
>>> 90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind,
>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car.
>>> Lights aren't such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving
>>> lights don't draw as much current as headlights. Headlights (like other
>>> high current accessories) actually affect gas mileage.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> So?
>>
>> It's a very small price to pay for the safety. The difference is in DRLs
>> and Full ON headlamps, not the difference in OFF or ON.[/color]
>
>I don't know the precise difference, in terms of the mechanical resistance
>presented to the engine via the extra draw on the alternator. All I can say
>is that when the headlights go on, the RPMs go down quite noticeably. But,
>at the same time, I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to disconnect the
>running lights. I guess I'm fair and balanced.[/color]

Well, if you ignore inefficiencies to get a ballpark idea, it's pretty
easy. 1 horsepower equals 746 Watts. In other words, powering your
~100 Watts of lighting isn't taxing your motor much.

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:21:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:0oCdnbvP1P4X9tHeRVn-jw@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AFZ2f.1454$647.1182@news01.roc.ny...
>>>> 90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind,
>>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car.
>>>> Lights aren't such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving
>>>> lights don't draw as much current as headlights. Headlights (like other
>>>> high current accessories) actually affect gas mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So?
>>>
>>> It's a very small price to pay for the safety. The difference is in DRLs
>>> and Full ON headlamps, not the difference in OFF or ON.[/color]
>>
>>I don't know the precise difference, in terms of the mechanical resistance
>>presented to the engine via the extra draw on the alternator. All I can
>>say
>>is that when the headlights go on, the RPMs go down quite noticeably. But,
>>at the same time, I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to disconnect
>>the
>>running lights. I guess I'm fair and balanced.[/color]
>
> Well, if you ignore inefficiencies to get a ballpark idea, it's pretty
> easy. 1 horsepower equals 746 Watts. In other words, powering your
> ~100 Watts of lighting isn't taxing your motor much.
>[/color]

If you're saying the normal headlights only use 100 watts, then why are the
running lights set up with lower wattage bulbs (which they are, in fact)?

Philip, 10/11/2005,10:07:03 PM, wrote:
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> I would recind whatever legal measures are motivating manufacturers
> to have some of their models DRL equipped. Return full headlamp
> control and use descretion to the driver.[/color]

Oh boy, here we go again with DRLs. Still no one has answered the
man's question.

--
"Golf balls are attracted to water as unerringly as the eye of a
middle-aged man to a female bosom." -- Michael Green

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Philip, 10/11/2005,10:07:03 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I would recind whatever legal measures are motivating manufacturers
>> to have some of their models DRL equipped. Return full headlamp
>> control and use descretion to the driver.[/color]
>
> Oh boy, here we go again with DRLs. Still no one has answered the
> man's question.
>[/color]


If I knew the answer I'd give it to him.

All I know is the DRL ECU mod, which the OP's surely found by now.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:0oCdnbvP1P4X9tHeRVn-jw@ez2.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:AFZ2f.1454$647.1182@news01.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
>>> 90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind,
>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car.
>>> Lights aren't such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving
>>> lights don't draw as much current as headlights. Headlights (like other
>>> high current accessories) actually affect gas mileage.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> So?
>>
>> It's a very small price to pay for the safety. The difference is in DRLs
>> and Full ON headlamps, not the difference in OFF or ON.[/color]
>
> I don't know the precise difference, in terms of the mechanical resistance
> presented to the engine via the extra draw on the alternator. All I can
> say is that when the headlights go on, the RPMs go down quite noticeably.
> But, at the same time, I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to
> disconnect the running lights. I guess I'm fair and balanced.[/color]

There is no valid reason for 99% of drivers to NEED to disconnect ANY
lights.

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>
>[/color]

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:21:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:0oCdnbvP1P4X9tHeRVn-jw@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AFZ2f.1454$647.1182@news01.roc.ny...
>>>> 90% of the drivers on the road are either drunk, legally blind,
>>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a can opener much less a car.
>>>> Lights aren't such a bad idea. Lights aren't such a bad idea. Driving
>>>> lights don't draw as much current as headlights. Headlights (like other
>>>> high current accessories) actually affect gas mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So?
>>>
>>> It's a very small price to pay for the safety. The difference is in DRLs
>>> and Full ON headlamps, not the difference in OFF or ON.[/color]
>>
>>I don't know the precise difference, in terms of the mechanical resistance
>>presented to the engine via the extra draw on the alternator. All I can
>>say
>>is that when the headlights go on, the RPMs go down quite noticeably. But,
>>at the same time, I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to disconnect
>>the
>>running lights. I guess I'm fair and balanced.[/color]
>
> Well, if you ignore inefficiencies to get a ballpark idea, it's pretty
> easy. 1 horsepower equals 746 Watts. In other words, powering your
> ~100 Watts of lighting isn't taxing your motor much.[/color]

Precisely. Only idiots whine about fractions of a HP or whine about bulbs
burning out a tad sooner.
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>[/color]