tires for 98 corolla

what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?

I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
ComforTred.

will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)

Raymond wrote:
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> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>
> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
> ComforTred.
>
> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]

No, I repeat, NO all season tire is enough for winter driving. Get
dedicated winter tires.

High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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>Raymond wrote:
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>> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>>
>> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
>> ComforTred.
>>
>> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
>> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]
>
>No, I repeat, NO all season tire is enough for winter driving. Get
>dedicated winter tires.[/color]

I agree completely...my wife drives about 80 miles round trip
about twice a week to work and the rest of the week about 8 miles
round trip...this is well within the snow belt...get the best
tires you can and get them studded. I did this last year and I
won't fail to do it this fall again. It cost me around $500 and
If it saves her even a slight ditching it's paid for itself. The
slightest dinge will run more than that so it's really silly to
cut corners on tires IMO.
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

what do you mean by get them studded?

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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> >Raymond wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
> >>
> >> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
> >> ComforTred.
> >>
> >> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an[/color][/color][/color]
all[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]
> >
> >No, I repeat, NO all season tire is enough for winter driving. Get
> >dedicated winter tires.[/color]
>
> I agree completely...my wife drives about 80 miles round trip
> about twice a week to work and the rest of the week about 8 miles
> round trip...this is well within the snow belt...get the best
> tires you can and get them studded. I did this last year and I
> won't fail to do it this fall again. It cost me around $500 and
> If it saves her even a slight ditching it's paid for itself. The
> slightest dinge will run more than that so it's really silly to
> cut corners on tires IMO.
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

"Raymond" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
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> what do you mean by get them studded?[/color]

Studded snow tires are illegal in many places in the U.S. Check with your
tire dealer before you get it done.

Studded snow tires have very short metal studs protruding from the rubber to
provide additional traction on snow and ice. Studded snow tires are very
noisy - they make a buzzing sound and they tend to cause more wear and tear
on roads, which is why they are banned in some places.

If you're willing to put up with the buzzing noize and if they are leagal,
they are much better in snow and ice conditions than all season tires. Only
tire chains provide better traction than studded snow tires.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply
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>
> "Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:aapvl1hir1mr9d7t64g5mvn1b9qsd4uqfg@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Raymond wrote:
>> >
>> >> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>> >>
>> >> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
>> >> ComforTred.
>> >>
>> >> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an[/color][/color]
> all[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it
>> >> was)
>> >
>> >No, I repeat, NO all season tire is enough for winter driving. Get
>> >dedicated winter tires.[/color]
>>
>> I agree completely...my wife drives about 80 miles round trip
>> about twice a week to work and the rest of the week about 8 miles
>> round trip...this is well within the snow belt...get the best
>> tires you can and get them studded. I did this last year and I
>> won't fail to do it this fall again. It cost me around $500 and
>> If it saves her even a slight ditching it's paid for itself. The
>> slightest dinge will run more than that so it's really silly to
>> cut corners on tires IMO.
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)[/color]
>
>[/color]

I coulda sworn High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> typ'd:
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>Raymond wrote:
>[color=green]
>> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>>
>> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
>> ComforTred.
>>
>> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
>> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]
>
>No, I repeat, NO all season tire is enough for winter driving. Get
>dedicated winter tires.[/color]

Overkill, says me. Slow down and drive like the roads are greased and
your all-season tires will do fine.

Michigan winters are surely no worse than I deal with here in SE
Minnesota, and I've NEVER had anything but all-season tires. That
includes commuting and the occasional foray into REAL winter on trips
to north central Minnesota. The only times I've ever had any trouble
are when the plows are slow getting to the semi-rural neighborhood I
live in and I wind up having to work from home for a day . . . .

-Don (looking forward to his 30th winter in SE MN)
--
"Ladies and gentlemen take my advice.
Pull down your pants and slide on the ice."

-- Sidney Freedman

Those are OK. Try BF Goodrich traction t/a radials. THey're cheaper
and are excellent.

FWD cars are very good on snow. You won't need snow tires. I never
did and drove on alot of snow in my day. I remember driving on about 2
inches of snow on a 2 lane highway at about 40 mph whilst the RWD cars
were going 20 and slipping. FWD is the way to go!

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:03:45 -0400, "Raymond" <noemail@noemail.com>
wrote:
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>what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>
>I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
>ComforTred.
>
>will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
>wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]

If you live in an area that gets an annual dose of Real Winter, you
really should get a second set of rims, and a set of real Snow Tires.
"All Season" tires do everything adequately (wet traction, dry
traction, snow, mud, cornering, tread wear, heat resistance) but they
do none of them really well.

You can save a whole lot of money by getting a set of generic steel
wheels, but you need to get a second set. You can spend $60 to 300
each for some fancy alloy rims, where Tirerack.com has a generic black
steel 14" rim for $34 each. At that price, it's not a heartbreaker if
you still manage to get sideways on a patch of ice, slide into a curb
& bend the rim. $34 is 'disposable'.

Spend the money on good grippy snow tires - if you don't leave them
on too long after the snow melts, you can get two to four winters
worth of wear out of them.

Dismounting and remounting regular and snow tires on the one set of
wheels every year is hard on the tires (the bead areas can rip from
the mounting machine arm) and the rims (the seating flanges get all
torn up, and the bolt holes.) And the wheel finish gets destroyed
from constantly clipping new balancing weights on.

And if you have to have someone else swap the tires for you, you
inevitably either wait too long to put the snows on in the fall and
get in a wreck, or you wait too long before switching back in the
spring and wear out the snow tires way too fast - the soft sticky
rubber wears away fast on dry roads.

Then there's that day-long wait at the tire dealer right after the
first storm, and the labor charge for each change-over - or if they do
the change "for free" they charge for the balancing, or the "things
that they find wrong while they're in there..." TANSTAAFL, they need
to make their money somewhere, and the workers need to be paid at the
end of the day.

And with a second set of wheels & tires all ready to go, if you get
a freak early or late snowstorm, you can swap the snow tires on and
off your car multiple times a year all by yourself with no problem and
no waiting. Buy a floor jack and you can swap them in under an hour
without breaking a sweat.

Under 10 minutes with the whole family helping and pit-crew style
practice drills, under 5 with a floor lift and multiple impact
wrenches, then you get into the zone with the Indy-car jacks built
into the car, special captive lug-nuts and "speed wrenches"... What's
the limit now, 5 men over the wall? ;-P

(Gotta go get me a Nomex jumpsuit with a bunch of sponsor's names...)

--<< Bruce >>--

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5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:03:45 -0400, Raymond wrote:
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> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>
> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
> ComforTred.
>
> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]


If you're looking at a lot of snow and ice, Bridgstone Blizzaks.

Or, to save a few bucks, get the Mastercraft rip-off, the Glacier-Grip.
Buy them NOW, they sell out FAST!

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
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>
>"Raymond" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
>news:QJR7f.33$3e1.1626@news.uswest.net...[color=green]
>> what do you mean by get them studded?[/color]
>
>Studded snow tires are illegal in many places in the U.S. Check with your
>tire dealer before you get it done.
>
>Studded snow tires have very short metal studs protruding from the rubber to
>provide additional traction on snow and ice. Studded snow tires are very
>noisy - they make a buzzing sound and they tend to cause more wear and tear
>on roads, which is why they are banned in some places.
>
>If you're willing to put up with the buzzing noize and if they are leagal,
>they are much better in snow and ice conditions than all season tires. Only
>tire chains provide better traction than studded snow tires.[/color]

Nah Ray...not now at least...I can hear them only occasionally,
mostly as I pull into Horton's drive through window because of
the wall up near the car but I never hear them on the highway.

Perhaps they're just quieter now because of modern engineering?
In any case they're the cat's ass I think...I get them 'all
around'.

Where I find them very useful is on wet roads when the temp dips
below freezing and you're suddenly on 'black ice'. WHOOPS!

Incidentally they're allowed here in the Fall but must come off
sometime in the Spring.
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:03:45 -0400, Raymond wrote:
>[color=green]
>> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>>
>> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
>> ComforTred.
>>
>> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
>> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]
>
>
>If you're looking at a lot of snow and ice, Bridgstone Blizzaks.
>
>Or, to save a few bucks, get the Mastercraft rip-off, the Glacier-Grip.
>Buy them NOW, they sell out FAST![/color]

All good suggestions, plus (if you can legally) stud them and put
them 'all around'...else the first time you 'ditch it', and pay
$1000 (~) to fix a couple of dings you'll wish to hell that you
had spent $500 bux for studded snow tires...to these guys who say
"Shucks, just slow down" etc. Well, I've been driving in Canada
for over 55 years and I damned well know what the hell I'm
talking about, if you want to ignore my advice then 'fill yer
boots bud'...and the best of luck to you too. :)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:31:20 +0000, Gord Beaman wrote:
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
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>>
>>"Raymond" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:QJR7f.33$3e1.1626@news.uswest.net...[color=darkred]
>>> what do you mean by get them studded?[/color]
>>
>>Studded snow tires are illegal in many places in the U.S. Check with your
>>tire dealer before you get it done.
>>
>>Studded snow tires have very short metal studs protruding from the rubber to
>>provide additional traction on snow and ice. Studded snow tires are very
>>noisy - they make a buzzing sound and they tend to cause more wear and tear
>>on roads, which is why they are banned in some places.
>>
>>If you're willing to put up with the buzzing noize and if they are leagal,
>>they are much better in snow and ice conditions than all season tires. Only
>>tire chains provide better traction than studded snow tires.[/color]
>
> Nah Ray...not now at least...I can hear them only occasionally,
> mostly as I pull into Horton's drive through window because of
> the wall up near the car but I never hear them on the highway.[/color]

Horton's eh? Are you a cop?

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>
> Perhaps they're just quieter now because of modern engineering?
> In any case they're the cat's ass I think...I get them 'all
> around'.
>
> Where I find them very useful is on wet roads when the temp dips
> below freezing and you're suddenly on 'black ice'. WHOOPS!
>
> Incidentally they're allowed here in the Fall but must come off
> sometime in the Spring.[/color]

Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:31:20 +0000, Gord Beaman wrote:
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>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"Raymond" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:QJR7f.33$3e1.1626@news.uswest.net...
>>>> what do you mean by get them studded?
>>>
>>>Studded snow tires are illegal in many places in the U.S. Check with your
>>>tire dealer before you get it done.
>>>
>>>Studded snow tires have very short metal studs protruding from the rubber to
>>>provide additional traction on snow and ice. Studded snow tires are very
>>>noisy - they make a buzzing sound and they tend to cause more wear and tear
>>>on roads, which is why they are banned in some places.
>>>
>>>If you're willing to put up with the buzzing noize and if they are leagal,
>>>they are much better in snow and ice conditions than all season tires. Only
>>>tire chains provide better traction than studded snow tires.[/color]
>>
>> Nah Ray...not now at least...I can hear them only occasionally,
>> mostly as I pull into Horton's drive through window because of
>> the wall up near the car but I never hear them on the highway.[/color]
>
>Horton's eh? Are you a cop?
>
>[/color]

No, God no!...I'm a retired military (Air Force) flight
engineer...I love Horton's coffee that's all!... :)

....and I don't drive Marie's Matrix much (which has the studded
tires), she works (just a kid) so needs the traction...I have a
little Corolla to run out for coffee with buddies... :)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
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>>
>>"Raymond" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:QJR7f.33$3e1.1626@news.uswest.net...[color=darkred]
>>> what do you mean by get them studded?[/color]
>>
>>Studded snow tires are illegal in many places in the U.S. Check with your
>>tire dealer before you get it done.
>>
>>Studded snow tires have very short metal studs protruding from the rubber
>>to
>>provide additional traction on snow and ice. Studded snow tires are very
>>noisy - they make a buzzing sound and they tend to cause more wear and
>>tear
>>on roads, which is why they are banned in some places.
>>
>>If you're willing to put up with the buzzing noize and if they are leagal,
>>they are much better in snow and ice conditions than all season tires.
>>Only
>>tire chains provide better traction than studded snow tires.[/color]
>
> Nah Ray...not now at least...I can hear them only occasionally,
> mostly as I pull into Horton's drive through window because of
> the wall up near the car but I never hear them on the highway.[/color]

I have not heard studded snow tires since they were banned in Illinois. We
had studded snow tires on 3 cars - I had to yank the studs out of the snow
tires for all 3 cars. Even with a special tool, my knuckles were bloody by
the time I was done.
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>
> Perhaps they're just quieter now because of modern engineering?
> In any case they're the cat's ass I think...I get them 'all
> around'.
>
> Where I find them very useful is on wet roads when the temp dips
> below freezing and you're suddenly on 'black ice'. WHOOPS!
>
> Incidentally they're allowed here in the Fall but must come off
> sometime in the Spring.
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

I agree, studded tires are the cat's pajamas but they are tough on the
roads.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:02:33 -0500, Don Fearn <pooder@charter.net>
wrote:
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>I coulda sworn High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> typ'd:
>[color=green]
>>Raymond wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> what's a good tire to put on my 98 corolla?
>>>
>>> I went to discount tire and they recommended the goodyear Assurance
>>> ComforTred.
>>>
>>> will this be good enough during michigan winters? I used to drive an all
>>> wheel drive with all season tires (continental touring, I think it was)[/color]
>>
>>No, I repeat, NO all season tire is enough for winter driving. Get
>>dedicated winter tires.[/color]
>
>Overkill, says me. Slow down and drive like the roads are greased and
>your all-season tires will do fine.
>
>Michigan winters are surely no worse than I deal with here in SE
>Minnesota, and I've NEVER had anything but all-season tires. That
>includes commuting and the occasional foray into REAL winter on trips
>to north central Minnesota. The only times I've ever had any trouble
>are when the plows are slow getting to the semi-rural neighborhood I
>live in and I wind up having to work from home for a day . . . .
>
>-Don (looking forward to his 30th winter in SE MN)[/color]


The Rental Car companies in Minneapolis must agree with you!

I flew into Minneapolis one windy winter day (minus 20 as I remember)
and asked the gal if I had snow tires. She said no.

I had NO problem.

--

Scott in Florida

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