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Old 11-09-2005, 10:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Please Help - 86 Corolla 4AC Oil Leak - strange issue with timing belt cover

Hi folks,

I appreciate any help from the Toyota repair guru's out there ... I'm
far from a guru so please excuse any wrong words/descriptions. Thanks
for your help!!.

I'm working on a 1986 Corolla Sedan, Auto 3spd, power steering, 4ac
engine with 205,000 miles, unknown history, and a severe oil leak.

I traced the leak down to the the lower timining chain cover and area
around the harmonic balancer. When I removed the balancer, I was
shocked to find that it was litterally scraping and creating a gouge in
the timing chain cover (it's plastic, and this caused an entire side of
it to break off) and also found the balancer rubbing along the oil pan
edge (amazing it didn't catch fire or something).

I have no idea how this could happen as I'm not familiar with Toyota
engines. Were spacers left off at some time in the past, or has this
well used engine simply worn internally so severely that it's beyond
tolerance/clearance? The funny thing is, other then the oil leak, the
car runs really well.

So, I'd appreciate some advice. Should I replace the lower timing
chain cover and let the balancer rub in again? Are there shims I can
use somehow? I'm worried that if I pull the timing chain cover in it's
damaged condition, it wont be replaceable unless i use a new one, so i
want to be sure I'm doing the right thing.....help!!

Zac

 
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Please Help - 86 Corolla 4AC Oil Leak - strange issue with timing belt cover


<ZacInAus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131594996.127148.42000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Hi folks,
>
> I appreciate any help from the Toyota repair guru's out there ... I'm
> far from a guru so please excuse any wrong words/descriptions. Thanks
> for your help!!.
>
> I'm working on a 1986 Corolla Sedan, Auto 3spd, power steering, 4ac
> engine with 205,000 miles, unknown history, and a severe oil leak.
>
> I traced the leak down to the the lower timining chain cover and area
> around the harmonic balancer. When I removed the balancer, I was
> shocked to find that it was litterally scraping and creating a gouge in
> the timing chain cover (it's plastic, and this caused an entire side of
> it to break off) and also found the balancer rubbing along the oil pan
> edge (amazing it didn't catch fire or something).
>
> I have no idea how this could happen as I'm not familiar with Toyota
> engines. Were spacers left off at some time in the past, or has this
> well used engine simply worn internally so severely that it's beyond
> tolerance/clearance? The funny thing is, other then the oil leak, the
> car runs really well.
>
> So, I'd appreciate some advice. Should I replace the lower timing
> chain cover and let the balancer rub in again? Are there shims I can
> use somehow? I'm worried that if I pull the timing chain cover in it's
> damaged condition, it wont be replaceable unless i use a new one, so i
> want to be sure I'm doing the right thing.....help!!
>
> Zac
>[/color]
The oil leak will continue if all you do is replace the lower timing chain
cover and let the balancer rub it again.

Some possible causes are a worn or damaged front seal, worn or damaged
thrust washers, and worn or damaged crank shaft bearing, in that order of
likelihood. Any of those items, left in worn or damaged condition, could
lead to accelerated wear.

If you have an oil pressure gauge and oil pressure is low at idle, worn or
damaged crank shaft bearings could be the cause. If there is fore-aft play
on the crankshaft/balancer, then worn or damaged thrust washers could be the
cause. If the crank bearings and thrust washers are Ok, then the front seal
is the likely culprit. I have never heard of parts left out of an engine at
the factory. I have heard of thrust washers falling out, but that was on a
different engine series.

If you are going to spend money, then fix the root cause of the problem.
The timing cover is more of a dust cover - it doesn't hold pressure so you
may be able to get away with silicone, epoxy, cement, or duct tape to hold
the timing cover in place if you do not want to replace it with a new one.
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Ray O
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Please Help - 86 Corolla 4AC Oil Leak - strange issue with timing belt cover

Ray, thank you so much. I'll continue work on it in the morning and let
you know what I find. This is a huge help.

Z

 
Old 11-10-2005, 11:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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<ZacInAus@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ray, thank you so much. I'll continue work on it in the morning and let
> you know what I find. This is a huge help.
>
> Z[/color]

You're welcome and good luck!
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