Incredible Camry pricing

I understand that Hayward Toyota in San Francisco
is selling new 2006 CAMRY LE's for $16,999 (automatic
tranz). They say they have about 20 of them, but color
selection is limited.

That price is only $900 more than the $16,100 I've
negotiated for a Corolla LE.

Should I fly out to San Francisco while the sale
is going on, and buy a Camry?

Is Hayward a good dealership? Do you think I'll
really get a brand new Camry that's in excellent condition
for that price?

Would anyone know of other dealerships selling Camry's
at similar prices?

It almost seems to good to be true.

Thanks.

PS: By the way, thank you Ray O for the late-month buying
tip. I'll try putting it to good use by knocking
another $300 off my current offer price of 16,100 on the
Corolla LE whose MSRP is 17,070--if I don't go to
San Fran for the Camry.

Built_Well wrote:
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> I understand that Hayward Toyota in San Francisco is selling new 2006
> CAMRY LE's for $16,999 (automatic tranz). They say they have about 20
> of them, but color selection is limited.
>
> That price is only $900 more than the $16,100 I've
> negotiated for a Corolla LE.[/color]

Keep in mind that you are comparing the top-of-the-line Corolla (XRS model
aside) to the entry-level Camry.

High Tech Misfit wrote:
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> Keep in mind that you are comparing the top-of-the-line Corolla (XRS
> model aside) to the entry-level Camry.[/color]


Oh, sorry, I should have mentioned that the 16,100 is
not for a Corolla XRS but for a Corolla LE.

Built_Well wrote:
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> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Keep in mind that you are comparing the top-of-the-line Corolla (XRS
>> model aside) to the entry-level Camry.[/color]
>
>
> Oh, sorry, I should have mentioned that the 16,100 is
> not for a Corolla XRS but for a Corolla LE.[/color]

And you did in fact say that it was for an LE. My statement above implies
that I was NOT counting the XRS when I was talking about high end
Corollas. :-)

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.25.12.41.15.772.3111@bbbb.com...[color=blue]
>I understand that Hayward Toyota in San Francisco
> is selling new 2006 CAMRY LE's for $16,999 (automatic
> tranz). They say they have about 20 of them, but color
> selection is limited.[/color]

This is nit-picking, but Hayward Toyota is in Hayward, not San Francisco.[color=blue]
>
> That price is only $900 more than the $16,100 I've
> negotiated for a Corolla LE.
>[/color]

You have to compare the options on the Camrys - they are probably pretty
bare bones. My guess is that they were originally destined for fleet sales
and were somewhow re-directed to retail sales.
[color=blue]
> Should I fly out to San Francisco while the sale
> is going on, and buy a Camry?[/color]

I would not invest in a plane ticket unless you know that they will have the
car you are looking for when you arrive.
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>
> Is Hayward a good dealership? Do you think I'll
> really get a brand new Camry that's in excellent condition
> for that price?
>[/color]

I have not dealt personally with them in over 20 years so you will have to
get someone else's opinion on whether they are a good dealership or not.

[color=blue]
> Would anyone know of other dealerships selling Camry's
> at similar prices?
>
> It almost seems to good to be true.
>
> Thanks.
>
> PS: By the way, thank you Ray O for the late-month buying
> tip. I'll try putting it to good use by knocking
> another $300 off my current offer price of 16,100 on the
> Corolla LE whose MSRP is 17,070--if I don't go to
> San Fran for the Camry.[/color]

You're welcome!

--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

Hayward's not low-balling, are they? I heard about
the $16,995 sale for automatic Camry LE's at FatWallet.com :

FatWallet's link about Hayward's Camrys:

[url]http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/541328[/url]

Sounds like this is coming from the sales staff at that dealership to me!

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.25.19.57.36.26.5944@bbbb.com...[color=blue]
> Hayward's not low-balling, are they? I heard about
> the $16,995 sale for automatic Camry LE's at FatWallet.com :
>
> FatWallet's link about Hayward's Camrys:
>
> [url]http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/541328[/url][/color]

OK, where can I get new 2006 camry LE for $16999? :-)
I will get it today for that price...

"Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message news:SuPhf.5353$QW2.211@dukeread08...[color=blue]
> Sounds like this is coming from the sales staff at that dealership to me!
>
> "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.11.25.19.57.36.26.5944@bbbb.com...[color=green]
>> Hayward's not low-balling, are they? I heard about
>> the $16,995 sale for automatic Camry LE's at FatWallet.com :
>>
>> FatWallet's link about Hayward's Camrys:
>>
>> [url]http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/541328[/url][/color]
>
>[/color]

Yeah, the Camry is being promoted aggressively (market share) and the
prices are quickly dropping. But they've been selling around that price
for several years. Except now you have more hidden rebates than ever so
the prices could probably go lower.

<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1133503978.102560.317560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Yeah, the Camry is being promoted aggressively (market share) and the
> prices are quickly dropping. But they've been selling around that price
> for several years. Except now you have more hidden rebates than ever so
> the prices could probably go lower.[/color]

What are the direct competitor models to camry from ford, gm, crystler ?

"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
news:dmou6d.2r0.1@poczta.onet.pl...[color=blue]
> <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1133503978.102560.317560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> Yeah, the Camry is being promoted aggressively (market share) and the
>> prices are quickly dropping. But they've been selling around that price
>> for several years. Except now you have more hidden rebates than ever so
>> the prices could probably go lower.[/color][/color]

Toyota does not have "hidden rebates." All sales promotions and rebates are
advertised to the public either through national advertising, local Toyota
Dealer Advertising Association ads, or individual dealer ads. Toyota would
not hold a sale and then keep it a secret, and I doubt if any auto maker
would either.
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>
> What are the direct competitor models to camry from ford, gm, crystler ?[/color]

Ford - Taurus and 500
GM - Chevy Impala, Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Lucerne
Chrysler Sebring, Dodge Stratus
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

The Chevy Malibu has been called Chevy's "camry fighter." Having had
the occassion to drive a rental Malibu lately, I'd agree (of course the
Malibu was a 6 vs. my 4 camry....).

On 2 Dec 2005 10:29:39 -0800, [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:
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>The Chevy Malibu has been called Chevy's "camry fighter." Having had
>the occassion to drive a rental Malibu lately, I'd agree (of course the
>Malibu was a 6 vs. my 4 camry....).[/color]

When GM goes belly up....how are you going to fix it?

--

Scott in Florida

Interesting question.

I could be wrong, but from what I've seen most of the worst doomsayers
remark that while GM could go bankrupt, they company would survive.

Not sure what that would do to parts, but doubt it would have any
significant, long-term effect. Of course, I'm not planning on buying a
GM or any other rig in the next several years...

[email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:
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> Interesting question.
>
> I could be wrong, but from what I've seen most of the worst doomsayers
> remark that while GM could go bankrupt, they company would survive.
>
> Not sure what that would do to parts, but doubt it would have any
> significant, long-term effect. Of course, I'm not planning on buying a
> GM or any other rig in the next several years...
>
>[/color]

I have been through the "parts issue" with Ford. Very creative stories;
the only factory that makes the part I need burned down and then the
only warehouse storing the remaining supply also burned down. I am not
sure if there is a US law that says a car company must keep "x"number of
years of parts available for a model. Even if there was a law, the
company could get around it by saying they did not anticipate that
particular part failing a such a high rate. If a company goes bankrupt,
those laws may not apply. Does Yugo ring any bells?