Two families moved from Pakistan to the USA. When they arrived the two
fathers made a bet - in a year's time whichever family had become more
American would win.
A year later they met again. The first man said, "My son is playing
baseball, I had McDonalds for breakfast and I'm on my way to pick
up a case of Bud.
Dan J.S., 11/30/2005, 10:19:44 AM, <11orgogr2qoo76e@news.supernews.com>
wrote:
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> Two families moved from Pakistan to the USA. When they arrived the two
> fathers made a bet - in a year's time whichever family had become more
> American would win.
>
> A year later they met again. The first man said, "My son is playing
> baseball, I had McDonalds for breakfast and I'm on my way to pick
> up a case of Bud.
>
> How about you?"
>
> The second man replied, "Fuck you, towel head."[/color]
Good one.
At least these fellows tried to assimilate into the culture. Most
Moslems that arrive to different societies refuse to become like that
country. They want their own little country with their own rules.
--
"The moral rot of political correctness runs deep today in both
national parties."
~ Patrick J. Buchanan
"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
news:11orgogr2qoo76e@news.supernews.com...[color=blue]
> Two families moved from Pakistan to the USA. When they arrived the two
> fathers made a bet - in a year's time whichever family had become more
> American would win.
>
> A year later they met again. The first man said, "My son is playing
> baseball, I had McDonalds for breakfast and I'm on my way to pick
> up a case of Bud.
>
> How about you?"
>
> The second man replied, "Fuck you, towel head."[/color]
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eacqpf31ks7u001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> Dan J.S., 11/30/2005, 10:19:44 AM, <11orgogr2qoo76e@news.supernews.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Two families moved from Pakistan to the USA. When they arrived the two
>> fathers made a bet - in a year's time whichever family had become more
>> American would win.
>>
>> A year later they met again. The first man said, "My son is playing
>> baseball, I had McDonalds for breakfast and I'm on my way to pick
>> up a case of Bud.
>>
>> How about you?"
>>
>> The second man replied, "Fuck you, towel head."[/color]
>
> Good one.
> At least these fellows tried to assimilate into the culture. Most
> Moslems that arrive to different societies refuse to become like that
> country. They want their own little country with their own rules.
>[/color]
I don't know that it's fair to say that Muslims 'refuse' to assimilate -
remember, their religion has very strict rules about how one dresses, etc.
Having said that, Eastern Indians and Pakistanis seem to be the most
industrious of immigrants - willing to work very hard to maintain their
lives. Too bad more native-born Americans don't have that ethic!
Wickeddoll® wrote:
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> I don't know that it's fair to say that Muslims 'refuse' to assimilate -
> remember, their religion has very strict rules about how one dresses, etc.
>
> Having said that, Eastern Indians and Pakistanis seem to be the most
> industrious of immigrants - willing to work very hard to maintain their
> lives. Too bad more native-born Americans don't have that ethic![/color]
Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Dan J.S., 11/30/2005, 10:19:44 AM, <11orgogr2qoo76e@news.supernews.com>
>wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Two families moved from Pakistan to the USA. When they arrived the two
>> fathers made a bet - in a year's time whichever family had become more
>> American would win.
>>
>> A year later they met again. The first man said, "My son is playing
>> baseball, I had McDonalds for breakfast and I'm on my way to pick
>> up a case of Bud.
>>
>> How about you?"
>>
>> The second man replied, "Fuck you, towel head."[/color]
>
>Good one.
>At least these fellows tried to assimilate into the culture. Most
>Moslems that arrive to different societies refuse to become like that
>country. They want their own little country with their own rules.[/color]
Unless, of course, free money or other free stuff is involved
then they're true blue Americans (or Canadians)
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"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.30.21.07.09.212260@hightech.misfit...[color=blue]
> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I don't know that it's fair to say that Muslims 'refuse' to assimilate -
>> remember, their religion has very strict rules about how one dresses,
>> etc.
>>
>> Having said that, Eastern Indians and Pakistanis seem to be the most
>> industrious of immigrants - willing to work very hard to maintain their
>> lives. Too bad more native-born Americans don't have that ethic![/color]
>
> Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
> legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
> laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
> countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
> otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.[/color]
But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
*everyone* abide by that law?
High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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>Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I don't know that it's fair to say that Muslims 'refuse' to assimilate -
>> remember, their religion has very strict rules about how one dresses, etc.
>>
>> Having said that, Eastern Indians and Pakistanis seem to be the most
>> industrious of immigrants - willing to work very hard to maintain their
>> lives. Too bad more native-born Americans don't have that ethic![/color]
>
>Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
>legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
>laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
>countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
>otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.[/color]
Certainly doesn't surprise me much!...just look at what the lily
livered RCMP hierarchy did re turbans...and the DND also...thank
God the Legion has some backbone and -refused- to allow them to
wear turbans in the bar...kudos to them!...
--
Wickeddoll® wrote:
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>> Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
>> legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
>> laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
>> countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
>> otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.[/color]
>
> But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
> *everyone* abide by that law?[/color]
It was claimed by human rights groups that it was degrading toward women,
but that's how it works in the Muslim faith.
If they want to be treated like everyone else, then they should abide by
North American laws, be it for marriage or what not. That means men and
women are equal (theoretically and legally speaking of course). They
should not be entitled to specific laws just for their faith. If they
want their own laws, they should go back to their homeland.
"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
>> legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
>> laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
>> countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
>> otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.[/color]
>
>But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
>*everyone* abide by that law?
>
>Natalie
>
>[/color]
I don't know what I feel about that Natalie...on the one hand,
perhaps we shouldn't demand that people moving here be held to
our standards but then, OTOH, what sort of an example might our
children take from seeing what to us is very insulting behavior
toward women?, perhaps even cruelty toward them? (to name only
one aspect of their difference). Where do we 'put our foot down'?
I'm sure that some nationality would have 'some' trait that we
couldn't 'live with'...what do we do then? What do we say when
they say "Well, hell, you allow those XXX people to do BBB, why
can't we do ZZZ?...see my point?
Remember the fufarah that arose in Florida (I think) about the
Muslim woman who wanted a driver's license and yet wouldn't allow
the Highways Dept to photograph her face?... WooHoo...the fur
flew there...
"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>[color=green]
>> Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
>> legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
>> laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
>> countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
>> otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.[/color]
>
>But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
>*everyone* abide by that law?
>
>Natalie
>
>[/color]
Well Natalie...on one hand perhaps we 'should' allow emigrants
to keep their customs but OTOH what will our children take from
seeing (in this case) women being treated as less than equals?
even cruelly in some cases?...won't it (again in some cases) be
so prevalent that it'll seem natural for our kids?...it seems to
me that if I were to move to some country with very different
customs that I'd 'want' to 'fit in'. But, that's just not their
custom I guess.
Remember the Muslim woman in Florida (I think) who applied for a
driver's licence but wouldn't allow them to photograph her
face?...WooHoo...the fur flew there...
If we allow this deviation what happens when some people from
'very' different cultural backgrounds try to introduce some
customs that we 'cannot live with'?
--
"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:5s3cr1t4osmu3ukg77hj6m78sdd1rk4ohu@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote:
> snip[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
>>> legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
>>> laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
>>> countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
>>> otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.[/color]
>>
>>But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
>>*everyone* abide by that law?
>>
>>Natalie
>>
>>[/color]
> Well Natalie...on one hand perhaps we 'should' allow emigrants
> to keep their customs but OTOH what will our children take from
> seeing (in this case) women being treated as less than equals?
> even cruelly in some cases?...won't it (again in some cases) be
> so prevalent that it'll seem natural for our kids?...it seems to
> me that if I were to move to some country with very different
> customs that I'd 'want' to 'fit in'. But, that's just not their
> custom I guess.
>
> Remember the Muslim woman in Florida (I think) who applied for a
> driver's licence but wouldn't allow them to photograph her
> face?...WooHoo...the fur flew there...
>
> If we allow this deviation what happens when some people from
> 'very' different cultural backgrounds try to introduce some
> customs that we 'cannot live with'?
> --
>
> -Gord.[/color]
OK. Along those same lines, military guys marry Asian women from oppressed
countries, they bring them back here, and once some of them see how American
women live, they bag that subservient shit. Much to the guys' chagrin.
snip
[color=blue]
> But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
> *everyone* abide by that law?[/color]
It was a law only for their "own"...
This being said, make no mistake, the moslem world has one goal, convert all
the "infidels"... Let them build their mosques and take a larger place in
our occidental society and in 50 years from now, we might find ourselves
living a different world... I hope I'm wrong though...
"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>news:5s3cr1t4osmu3ukg77hj6m78sdd1rk4ohu@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> snip[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Here in Ontario (Canada), there was a request by some Muslim groups to
>>>> legalize "Shariah" (sp?), which is a set of Muslim marriage/relationship
>>>> laws that supposedly give the male all the power. I don't know which
>>>> countries these particular Muslim groups came from, but thankfully our
>>>> otherwise inept premier (after some deliberation!) refused to allow it.
>>>
>>>But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
>>>*everyone* abide by that law?
>>>
>>>Natalie
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Well Natalie...on one hand perhaps we 'should' allow emigrants
>> to keep their customs but OTOH what will our children take from
>> seeing (in this case) women being treated as less than equals?
>> even cruelly in some cases?...won't it (again in some cases) be
>> so prevalent that it'll seem natural for our kids?...it seems to
>> me that if I were to move to some country with very different
>> customs that I'd 'want' to 'fit in'. But, that's just not their
>> custom I guess.
>>
>> Remember the Muslim woman in Florida (I think) who applied for a
>> driver's licence but wouldn't allow them to photograph her
>> face?...WooHoo...the fur flew there...
>>
>> If we allow this deviation what happens when some people from
>> 'very' different cultural backgrounds try to introduce some
>> customs that we 'cannot live with'?
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.[/color]
>
>OK. Along those same lines, military guys marry Asian women from oppressed
>countries, they bring them back here, and once some of them see how American
>women live, they bag that subservient shit. Much to the guys' chagrin.
>
>;-)
>
>Natalie
>
>[/color]
Quite true...I'm still of the opinion that anyone wanting to
move here to live should make no demands of us, but should live
by the 'rules of our road', Should neither ask for nor expect any
special treatment...matter of fact I really believe that we're
all equal and nobody should expect special treatment.
You can easily tic me off, just mention Native Rights, Reserve,
Treaty and stuff like that...
--
"Bassplayer12" <perettij@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
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>snip
>[color=green]
>> But is that really a problem for non-Muslims? Or were they trying to make
>> *everyone* abide by that law?[/color]
>
>It was a law only for their "own"...
>This being said, make no mistake, the moslem world has one goal, convert all
>the "infidels"... Let them build their mosques and take a larger place in
>our occidental society and in 50 years from now, we might find ourselves
>living a different world... I hope I'm wrong though...
>[/color]
I'm quite sure you're not though...can you imagine the allure to
a young horny teen age guy of the promise of his very own group
of 100 young virgins?...any yet some say the Muslim religion is
non violent!...
--
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