Tire rotation pattern for 2002 Corolla

The 2002 Corolla CE user manual states that the tire rotation should be
in the pattern of Front Left <-> Rear Left and Front Right <-> Rear
Right ( which is perfect normal), but NOT in Front Left <-> Rear Right
(kitty cross way).

This is a bit bizzard to me that you should not rotate the tire in
kitty cross way. Any one knows why?

"Valutek" <valutek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The 2002 Corolla CE user manual states that the tire rotation should be
> in the pattern of Front Left <-> Rear Left and Front Right <-> Rear
> Right ( which is perfect normal), but NOT in Front Left <-> Rear Right
> (kitty cross way).
>
> This is a bit bizzard to me that you should not rotate the tire in
> kitty cross way. Any one knows why?
>[/color]

Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of rotation does
not change. Rotating them to the other side of the vehicle would change the
direction of rotation.
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Ray O
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ray O, 12/5/2005,4:05:48 PM, wrote:
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>>
>> "Valutek" <valutek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1133812227.942320.313190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> > The 2002 Corolla CE user manual states that the tire rotation
>> > should be
>> >in the pattern of Front Left <-> Rear Left and Front Right <-> Rear
>> >Right ( which is perfect normal), but NOT in Front Left <-> Rear[/color]
>> Right[color=darkred]
>> > (kitty cross way).
>> >
>> > This is a bit bizzard to me that you should not rotate the tire in
>> > kitty cross way. Any one knows why?
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of
>> rotation does not change. Rotating them to the other side of the
>> vehicle would change the direction of rotation.[/color]
>
> My Camry manuals show tire rotation as Front to Back and Back to
> opposite Front. Does this not make the rear radials change rotation
> direction?
>
> --
> "Golf is the hardest game in the world to play, and the easiest to
> cheat at." -- Dave Hill[/color]

Sure does! I've seen tire rotation patterns that also include the spare but
I have not noticed any recommendations that call for radial tires to change
direction. Perhaps newer tires are not affected by direction change.
--
Ray O
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ray O, 12/5/2005,4:05:48 PM, wrote:
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>>
>> "Valutek" <valutek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1133812227.942320.313190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> > The 2002 Corolla CE user manual states that the tire rotation
>> > should be
>> >in the pattern of Front Left <-> Rear Left and Front Right <-> Rear
>> >Right ( which is perfect normal), but NOT in Front Left <-> Rear[/color]
>> Right[color=darkred]
>> > (kitty cross way).
>> >
>> > This is a bit bizzard to me that you should not rotate the tire in
>> > kitty cross way. Any one knows why?
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of
>> rotation does not change. Rotating them to the other side of the
>> vehicle would change the direction of rotation.[/color]
>
> My Camry manuals show tire rotation as Front to Back and Back to
> opposite Front. Does this not make the rear radials change rotation
> direction?
>[/color]
See tire rotation at [url]http://www.justtires.com/services/faqs.html[/url] Some tires
are marked with do not change rotation direction. However, if the tires are
the same size front and back and that is not always the case anymore, and
are not marked do not change rotation direction, you can cross them.
Sometimes you will have to argue with the servicing store as some still
stick to the old method when it was not recommended to cross radial tires.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0600, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> My Camry manuals show tire rotation as Front to Back and Back to
>> opposite Front. Does this not make the rear radials change rotation
>> direction?[/color]
>
>Sure does! I've seen tire rotation patterns that also include the spare but
>I have not noticed any recommendations that call for radial tires to change
>direction. Perhaps newer tires are not affected by direction change.[/color]

For the first-generation American radials they had lots of problem
with ply separation and failure when they were reversed, but that has
long since been figured out and fixed.

If the tires are all matching (not staggered sizes like MR2 and some
larger trucks) and not marked as unidirectional, and there's nothing
else special about them, you can cross-rotate the tires.

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"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
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>>[/color]
>
>Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of rotation does
>not change. Rotating them to the other side of the vehicle would change the
>direction of rotation.[/color]

Ray, you ARE saying that they can initially be run either way
but once used to run 'forward' then they should not be set to
run backwards?

The last set of good winter tires I bought were marked 'outside'
on one side...my dealer noticed that the garage where I had
bought them had ignored this marking and mixed them up...he
insisted that they needed to be remounted...we did. How important
is that 'outside/inside' thing?
--

-Gord.
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"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
> snip[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of rotation
>>does
>>not change. Rotating them to the other side of the vehicle would change
>>the
>>direction of rotation.[/color]
>
> Ray, you ARE saying that they can initially be run either way
> but once used to run 'forward' then they should not be set to
> run backwards?[/color]

First of all, I'll admit that I don't pay much attention to tire technology,
other than what it takes to repair them, balance them, and mount them, but
that used to be the case for radial tires. I guess they belts took a "set"
after they were run for a while. Other posters have suggested that this is
no longer the case, and I have not bothered to see if they are correct or
not because either way, I just rotate front to rear on my personal vehicles.
[color=blue]
>
> The last set of good winter tires I bought were marked 'outside'
> on one side...my dealer noticed that the garage where I had
> bought them had ignored this marking and mixed them up...he
> insisted that they needed to be remounted...we did. How important
> is that 'outside/inside' thing?
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

Some tires are directional - meant to rotate in a certain direction so that
they clear water better - think Goodyear AquaTreds. Others have an outside
and inside to assist with cornering and/or outside tread shoulder life.
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Ray O
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"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
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>
>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>news:hgf9p1hgc6rjbk613djs206bd9d218bhno@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
>> snip[color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>
>>>Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of rotation
>>>does
>>>not change. Rotating them to the other side of the vehicle would change
>>>the
>>>direction of rotation.[/color]
>>
>> Ray, you ARE saying that they can initially be run either way
>> but once used to run 'forward' then they should not be set to
>> run backwards?[/color]
>
>First of all, I'll admit that I don't pay much attention to tire technology,
>other than what it takes to repair them, balance them, and mount them, but
>that used to be the case for radial tires. I guess they belts took a "set"
>after they were run for a while. Other posters have suggested that this is
>no longer the case, and I have not bothered to see if they are correct or
>not because either way, I just rotate front to rear on my personal vehicles.
>[color=green]
>>
>> The last set of good winter tires I bought were marked 'outside'
>> on one side...my dealer noticed that the garage where I had
>> bought them had ignored this marking and mixed them up...he
>> insisted that they needed to be remounted...we did. How important
>> is that 'outside/inside' thing?
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)[/color]
>
>Some tires are directional - meant to rotate in a certain direction so that
>they clear water better - think Goodyear AquaTreds. Others have an outside
>and inside to assist with cornering and/or outside tread shoulder life.[/color]

Ok...thanks Ray...I guess the 'rotation restricted' kind likely
have an arrow to indicate the direction...but the ones marked
'outside' are different.

I went back to the same garage where I bought these to get them
remounted about a week ago and had words with the same boss about
them mixing up the tires last year...he said "Sorry, they're
supposed to rotate one way only, we'll do it right this time"
(mentioned a young guy did it last year)

I didn't have the heart to tell him that tires marked 'Outside'
wouldn't be direction restricted...
--

-Gord.
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"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
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>>
>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:hgf9p1hgc6rjbk613djs206bd9d218bhno@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Radial tires should always be rotated so that the direction of rotation
>>>>does
>>>>not change. Rotating them to the other side of the vehicle would change
>>>>the
>>>>direction of rotation.
>>>
>>> Ray, you ARE saying that they can initially be run either way
>>> but once used to run 'forward' then they should not be set to
>>> run backwards?[/color]
>>
>>First of all, I'll admit that I don't pay much attention to tire
>>technology,
>>other than what it takes to repair them, balance them, and mount them, but
>>that used to be the case for radial tires. I guess they belts took a
>>"set"
>>after they were run for a while. Other posters have suggested that this
>>is
>>no longer the case, and I have not bothered to see if they are correct or
>>not because either way, I just rotate front to rear on my personal
>>vehicles.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> The last set of good winter tires I bought were marked 'outside'
>>> on one side...my dealer noticed that the garage where I had
>>> bought them had ignored this marking and mixed them up...he
>>> insisted that they needed to be remounted...we did. How important
>>> is that 'outside/inside' thing?
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.
>>> (use gordon in email)[/color]
>>
>>Some tires are directional - meant to rotate in a certain direction so
>>that
>>they clear water better - think Goodyear AquaTreds. Others have an
>>outside
>>and inside to assist with cornering and/or outside tread shoulder life.[/color]
>
> Ok...thanks Ray...I guess the 'rotation restricted' kind likely
> have an arrow to indicate the direction...but the ones marked
> 'outside' are different.
>
> I went back to the same garage where I bought these to get them
> remounted about a week ago and had words with the same boss about
> them mixing up the tires last year...he said "Sorry, they're
> supposed to rotate one way only, we'll do it right this time"
> (mentioned a young guy did it last year)
>
> I didn't have the heart to tell him that tires marked 'Outside'
> wouldn't be direction restricted...
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

Easy way to get the tires on the corner you want is to mark them for the
shop with chalk.

Unidirectional tires generally have an arrow to indicate direction. I've
never noticed tires marked with "outside," proving my limited knowledge in
this area :-)
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Ray O
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