OT How the Demorats are trying to lose Iraq....surrender monkeys...all

HOW TO LOSE A WAR
By RALPH PETERS

QUIT. It's that simple. There are plenty of more complex ways to lose
a war, but none as reliable as just giving up.

Increasingly, quitting looks like the new American Way of War. No
matter how great your team, you can't win the game if you walk off the
field at half-time. That's precisely what the Democratic Party wants
America to do in Iraq. Forget the fact that we've made remarkable
progress under daunting conditions: The Dems are looking to throw the
game just to embarrass the Bush administration.

Forget about the consequences. Disregard the immediate encouragement
to the terrorists and insurgents to keep killing every American
soldier they can. Ignore what would happen in Iraq — and the region —
if we bail out. And don't mention how a U.S. surrender would turn al
Qaeda into an Islamic superpower, the champ who knocked out Uncle Sam
in the third round.

Forget about our dead soldiers, whose sacrifice is nothing but a
political club for Democrats to wave in front of the media. After all,
one way to create the kind of disaffection in the ranks that the Dems'
leaders yearn to see is to tell our troops on the battlefield that
they're risking their lives for nothing, we're throwing the game.

Forget that our combat veterans are re-enlisting at remarkable rates —
knowing they'll have to leave their families and go back to war again.
Ignore the progress on the ground, the squeezing of the insurgency's
last strongholds into the badlands on the Syrian border. Blow off the
successive Iraqi elections and the astonishing cooperation we've seen
between age-old enemies as they struggle to form a decent government.

Just set a time-table for our troops to come home and show the world
that America is an unreliable ally with no stomach for a fight, no
matter the stakes involved. Tell the world that deserting the South
Vietnamese and fleeing from Somalia weren't anomalies — that's what
Americans do.

While we're at it, let's just print up recruiting posters for the
terrorists, informing the youth of the Middle East that Americans are
cowards who can be attacked with impunity.



Whatever you do, don't talk about any possible consequences. Focus on
the moment — and the next round of U.S. elections. Just make political
points. After all, those dead American soldiers and Marines don't
matter — they didn't go to Ivy League schools. (Besides, most would've
voted Republican had they lived.)

America's security? Hah! As long as the upcoming elections show
Democratic gains, let the terrorist threat explode. So what if
hundreds of thousands of Middle Easterners might die in a regional
war? So what if violent fundamentalism gets a shot of steroids? So
what if we make Abu Musab al-Zarqawi the most successful Arab of the
past 500 years?

For God's sake, don't talk about democracy in the Middle East. After
all, democracy wasn't much fun for the Dems in 2000 or 2004. Why
support it overseas, when it's been so disappointing at home?

Human rights? Oh, dear. Human rights are for rich white people who
live in Malibu. Unless you can use the issue to whack Republicans.
Otherwise, brown, black or yellow people can die by the millions.
Dean, Reid & Pelosi, LLC, won't say, "Boo!"

You've got to understand, my fellow citizens: None of this matters.
And you don't matter, either. All that matters is scoring political
points. Let the world burn. Let the massacres run on. Let the
terrorists acquire WMD. Just give the Bush administration a big black
eye and we'll call that a win.

*

The irresponsibility of the Democrats on Capitol Hill is breathtaking.
(How can an honorable man such as Joe Lieberman stay in that party?)
Not one of the critics of our efforts in Iraq — not one — has
described his or her vision for Iraq and the Middle East in the wake
of a troop withdrawal. Not one has offered any analysis of what the
terrorists would gain and what they might do. Not one has shown
respect for our war dead by arguing that we must put aside our
partisan differences and win.

There's plenty I don't like about the Bush administration. Its
domestic policies disgust me, and the Bushies got plenty wrong in
Iraq. But at least they'll fight. The Dems are ready to betray our
troops, our allies and our country's future security for a few House
seats.

Surrender is never a winning strategy.

Yes, we've been told lies about Iraq — by Dems and their media
groupies. About conditions on the ground. About our troops. About
what's at stake. About the consequences of running away from the great
struggle of our time. About the continuing threat from terrorism. And
about the consequences for you and your family.

What do the Democrats fear? An American success in Iraq. They need us
to fail, and they're going to make us fail, no matter the cost. They
need to declare defeat before the 2006 mid-term elections and ensure a
real debacle before 2008 — a bloody mess they'll blame on Bush, even
though they made it themselves.

We won't even talk about the effect quitting while we're winning in
Iraq might have on the go-to-war calculations of other powers that
might want to challenge us in the future. Let's just be good Democrats
and prove that Osama bin Laden was right all along: Americans have no
stomach for a fight.

As for the 2,000-plus dead American troops about whom the lefties are
so awfully concerned? As soon as we abandon Iraq, they'll forget about
our casualties quicker than an amnesiac forgets how much small-change
he had in his pocket.

If we run away from our enemies overseas, our enemies will make their
way to us. Quit Iraq, and far more than 2,000 Americans are going to
die.

And they won't all be conservatives.

Ralph Peters is a retired Army officer.
--

Scott in Florida

The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <q3hlf.64$nm.0@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Learning Richard wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Scott in Florida wrote:
> > >
> > >>HOW TO LO
> > >
> > >
> > > I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> > >
> > > How is dat?
> > >
> > > You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> > >[/color]
> >
> >
> > Could not happen to a more deserving guy either.[/color]
>
> I predict he will be found innocent. Money laundering charge is[/color]

remarkably easy to prove thanks to McCain Feingold and stringent FEC
reporting and auditing requirements ;)

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Scott in Florida wrote:[color=green]
>> HOW TO LO[/color]
>
> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
>
> How is dat?
>
> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
>[/color]

Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
especially unlearned dick.

On 6 Dec 2005 11:50:16 -0800, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <q3hlf.64$nm.0@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
>> TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Learning Richard wrote:
>> > > Scott in Florida wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>HOW TO LO
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
>> > >
>> > > How is dat?
>> > >
>> > > You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Could not happen to a more deserving guy either.[/color]
>>
>> I predict he will be found innocent. Money laundering charge is[/color]
>
>remarkably easy to prove thanks to McCain Feingold and stringent FEC
>reporting and auditing requirements ;)[/color]

We shall see....

I take the other side. It is NOT easy to prove or it would have been
done a LONG time ago!

--

Scott in Florida

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>
>> Scott in Florida wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> HOW TO LO[/color]
>>
>> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
>>
>> How is dat?
>>
>> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
>>[/color]
>
>Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
>especially unlearned dick.
>
>
>[/color]

I missed you, Sharx....while I was away.

I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL

--

Scott in Florida

In article <1133898616.797702.302120@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=green]
> > In article <q3hlf.64$nm.0@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> > TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard wrote:
> > > > Scott in Florida wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>HOW TO LO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> > > >
> > > > How is dat?
> > > >
> > > > You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Could not happen to a more deserving guy either.[/color]
> >
> > I predict he will be found innocent. Money laundering charge is[/color]
>
> remarkably easy to prove thanks to McCain Feingold and stringent FEC
> reporting and auditing requirements ;)[/color]

Hah, I just threw my lunch up after reading your dribble. You'd better
go studdy up a bit more rich old boy.
--

In article <rnrbp19icjqmfjpf5i2bgkvvaclinr6edm@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> >"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> Scott in Florida wrote:
> >>> HOW TO LO
> >>
> >> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> >>
> >> How is dat?
> >>
> >> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> >>[/color]
> >
> >Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
> >especially unlearned dick.
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
> I missed you, Sharx....while I was away.
>
> I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL[/color]

rich would have a glass and say some smart thing like: This tastes like
La Romane'e'-Conti!!
--

The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1133898616.797702.302120@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > In article <q3hlf.64$nm.0@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> > > TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Learning Richard wrote:
> > > > > Scott in Florida wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>HOW TO LO
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> > > > >
> > > > > How is dat?
> > > > >
> > > > > You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Could not happen to a more deserving guy either.
> > >
> > > I predict he will be found innocent. Money laundering charge is[/color]
> >
> > remarkably easy to prove thanks to McCain Feingold and stringent FEC
> > reporting and auditing requirements ;)[/color]
>
> Hah, I just threw my lunch up after reading your dribble. You'd better
> go studdy up a bit more rich old boy.[/color]

I do compliance. Trust me. DeLay has not been in FEC compliance for
years.

On 6 Dec 2005 13:54:02 -0800, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <1133898616.797702.302120@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > The benevolent dbu wrote:
>> > > In article <q3hlf.64$nm.0@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
>> > > TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Learning Richard wrote:
>> > > > > Scott in Florida wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>HOW TO LO
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > How is dat?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Could not happen to a more deserving guy either.
>> > >
>> > > I predict he will be found innocent. Money laundering charge is
>> >
>> > remarkably easy to prove thanks to McCain Feingold and stringent FEC
>> > reporting and auditing requirements ;)[/color]
>>
>> Hah, I just threw my lunch up after reading your dribble. You'd better
>> go studdy up a bit more rich old boy.[/color]
>
>I do compliance. Trust me. DeLay has not been in FEC compliance for
>years.[/color]

Why oh why do they keep listening to the liars in power now? Bush got
caught in another lie re: Alito.

"And I know he's thinking about his late father. Samuel Alito Sr. came
to this country as a immigrant from Italy in 1914."
-- President Bush announcing the Alito nomination, 10/31/05

VERSUS

"Nativity: New Jersey"
-- Samuel Alito Sr.'s military enlistment records, indicating he was
born in New Jersey, not Italy.
(Hattip: DailyKos.com)


When Bush lies about something that simple, you KNOW he'll lie about
anything.
--
gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <rnrbp19icjqmfjpf5i2bgkvvaclinr6edm@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > >"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >>
> > >> Scott in Florida wrote:
> > >>> HOW TO LO
> > >>
> > >> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> > >>
> > >> How is dat?
> > >>
> > >> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> > >>
> > >
> > >Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
> > >especially unlearned dick.
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> > I missed you, Sharx....while I was away.
> >
> > I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL[/color]
>
> rich would have a glass and say some smart thing like: This tastes like
> La Romane'e'-Conti!![/color]

I don't drink wine, you judgemental buffoon.

In article <1133908498.634630.283450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=green]
> > In article <rnrbp19icjqmfjpf5i2bgkvvaclinr6edm@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>
> > > >> Scott in Florida wrote:
> > > >>> HOW TO LO
> > > >>
> > > >> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> > > >>
> > > >> How is dat?
> > > >>
> > > >> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
> > > >especially unlearned dick.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I missed you, Sharx....while I was away.
> > >
> > > I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL[/color]
> >
> > rich would have a glass and say some smart thing like: This tastes like
> > La Romane'e'-Conti!![/color]
>
> I don't drink wine, you judgemental buffoon.[/color]

Ha, what then do you drink??
--

In article <dn51mq$c7b$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 6 Dec 2005 13:54:02 -0800, "Learning Richard"
> <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> >The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> In article <1133898616.797702.302120@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The benevolent dbu wrote:
> >> > > In article <q3hlf.64$nm.0@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> >> > > TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Learning Richard wrote:
> >> > > > > Scott in Florida wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>HOW TO LO
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > How is dat?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Could not happen to a more deserving guy either.
> >> > >
> >> > > I predict he will be found innocent. Money laundering charge is
> >> >
> >> > remarkably easy to prove thanks to McCain Feingold and stringent FEC
> >> > reporting and auditing requirements ;)
> >>
> >> Hah, I just threw my lunch up after reading your dribble. You'd better
> >> go studdy up a bit more rich old boy.[/color]
> >
> >I do compliance. Trust me. DeLay has not been in FEC compliance for
> >years.[/color]
>
> Why oh why do they keep listening to the liars in power now? Bush got
> caught in another lie re: Alito.[/color]

Because you are a big dweeb minus the studious part.


[color=blue]
>
> "And I know he's thinking about his late father. Samuel Alito Sr. came
> to this country as a immigrant from Italy in 1914."
> -- President Bush announcing the Alito nomination, 10/31/05
>
> VERSUS
>
> "Nativity: New Jersey"
> -- Samuel Alito Sr.'s military enlistment records, indicating he was
> born in New Jersey, not Italy.
> (Hattip: DailyKos.com)
>
>
> When Bush lies about something that simple, you KNOW he'll lie about
> anything.[/color]
--

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:28:45 GMT, The benevolent dbu
<relaxand@smelltheroses.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <1133908498.634630.283450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > In article <rnrbp19icjqmfjpf5i2bgkvvaclinr6edm@4ax.com>,
>> > Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > >news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Scott in Florida wrote:
>> > > >>> HOW TO LO
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> How is dat?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
>> > > >especially unlearned dick.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I missed you, Sharx....while I was away.
>> > >
>> > > I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL
>> >
>> > rich would have a glass and say some smart thing like: This tastes like
>> > La Romane'e'-Conti!![/color]
>>
>> I don't drink wine, you judgemental buffoon.[/color]
>
>Ha, what then do you drink??[/color]

KooK Aide

would be my guess....
--

Scott in Florida

The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1133908498.634630.283450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > The benevolent dbu wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > In article <rnrbp19icjqmfjpf5i2bgkvvaclinr6edm@4ax.com>,
> > > Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Scott in Florida wrote:
> > > > >>> HOW TO LO
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> How is dat?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
> > > > >especially unlearned dick.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I missed you, Sharx....while I was away.
> > > >
> > > > I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL
> > >
> > > rich would have a glass and say some smart thing like: This tastes like
> > > La Romane'e'-Conti!![/color]
> >
> > I don't drink wine, you judgemental buffoon.[/color]
>
> Ha, what then do you drink??[/color]

When I do drink, usually cheap beer. Which is pretty rare.

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:06:05 -0500, Scott in Florida
<JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:55:39 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1133878387.009908.27470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Scott in Florida wrote:
>>>> HOW TO LO
>>>
>>> I hear Tom DeLay is facing life in prison.
>>>
>>> How is dat?
>>>
>>> You one of them republicans, Scott? hehehe
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Even in prison Tom DeLay would have more of a life than most DEMONrats,
>>especially unlearned dick.
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>I missed you, Sharx....
>while I was away.[/color]

But you're *much better* now, right? ;-)
[color=blue]
>I drop a turd in the punch bowl....but you create a shit storm...LOL[/color]

Sharky-boy couldn't create a shit storm even if he HAD something good
to say, much less so with the lame ass attempts at insults he usually
tries to throw out. :-o

(Damn, there I go, feeding the trolls again.)

....