ravelation wrote:[color=blue]
> [email]Trueno@ae86.GTS[/email] (Hachiroku) wrote:
>[color=green]
> >HEY!!!
> >I WAS A UNION MEMBER FOR 10
> >YEARS!!![/color]
>
> Pssst. I'm a union member RIGHT NOW!!
>[color=green]
> ><you're absolutely right, I believe...>[/color]
>
> Yes, I am. You wouldn't believe the $$ the unions spent taking down
> Arnold's initiatives. The number thrown around is $10mil.[/color]
That's what we have unions for. Sounds to me like they did a damned
good job. Now they can save GM and Delphi's asses for the workers.
> That's what we have unions for. Sounds to me like they did a damned[color=blue]
> good job. Now they can save GM and Delphi's asses for the workers.[/color]
The unions are a major reason that GM and Delphi are going down the
tubes, doofus.
Mark wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> > That's what we have unions for. Sounds to me like they did a damned
> > good job. Now they can save GM and Delphi's asses for the workers.[/color]
>
>
> The unions are a major reason that GM and Delphi are going down the
> tubes, doofus.[/color]
No, that would be the scumbag corporate execs at the top that promised
away the future of the workers' grandchildren back in the 1950s, while
excluding those numbers from their accounting books so their greedy
asses could reap the benefits of fake profit numbers.
Get a clue moron. Most American pension plans are extremely solvent
and good investments. GM and Delphi just screwed the American workers
with their greed, and now they have smooth-brained republican cretins
like you to blame the same workers that are already headed to the local
Food Bank because instead of smartly investing their retirement money
they trusted Nixonian crooks.
Any auto worker formerly making $75K, $100K or more to build crappy
cars (and there were plenty) who is now heading to the food bank
deserves to go there for not having the foresight to provide for
his/her family. Of course YOU wouldn't know about that, you are still
counting on Social Security to see you through. Your lame, pathetic
blame-the-rich ideology would be funny except for that fact that those
of us who have created the means to support ourselves have to put up
with the incessant whining, taxation-based thievery and election fraud
of those of you who were too stupid and/or lazy to plan ahead.
Mark wrote:[color=blue]
> Any auto worker formerly making $75K, $100K or more to build crappy
> cars (and there were plenty) who is now heading to the food bank
> deserves to go there for not having the foresight to provide for[/color]
They THOUGHT they were providing for their family. They were PROMISED
pensions. Now, thanks to the greed at the top of GM, we have to pay
for those pensions. Do you know anything about how pensions work?
[color=blue]
> his/her family. Of course YOU wouldn't know about that, you are still
> counting on Social Security to see you through. Your lame, pathetic[/color]
I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment,
you're damned right.
[color=blue]
> blame-the-rich ideology would be funny except for that fact that those[/color]
blame the rich? I don't blame the rich. I can't blame someone for
being frugal, living below their means, and saving money.
[color=blue]
> of us who have created the means to support ourselves have to put up
> with the incessant whining, taxation-based thievery and election fraud[/color]
what? taxation based thievery? You're fucking stupid. Bush has
stolen more of my kids money than any president in history -- in fact,
more than all of the previous presidents combined.
[color=blue]
> of those of you who were too stupid and/or lazy to plan ahead.[/color]
> I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment, you're damned right.
You're getting a return all right, it's just that it's going to all the
people who paid 1% to 3% of a small percentage of their income decades
ago. It's a fact dude, get over it and start telling your Liberal
buddies up there to get their butts in gear to make changes.
Mark wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> > I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment, you're damned right.[/color]
>
> You're getting a return all right, it's just that it's going to all the
> people who paid 1% to 3% of a small percentage of their income decades
> ago. It's a fact dude, get over it and start telling your Liberal
> buddies up there to get their butts in gear to make changes.
>
> [url]http://ss.pjdoland.com/archives/2005/01/_calendar_year.php[/url][/color]
All that article shows me is that Bush is robbing the United States
coffers blind. Fuckers. I HATE IT when my government rips me off.
Oh, I can and do make phenomenally better returns outside of SS, but
unlike you, moron, I don't like being robbed by my President.
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133906226.329078.101210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Mark wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment,
>> > you're damned right.[/color]
>>
>> You're getting a return all right, it's just that it's going to all the
>> people who paid 1% to 3% of a small percentage of their income decades
>> ago. It's a fact dude, get over it and start telling your Liberal
>> buddies up there to get their butts in gear to make changes.
>>
>> [url]http://ss.pjdoland.com/archives/2005/01/_calendar_year.php[/url][/color]
>
> All that article shows me is that Bush is robbing the United States
> coffers blind. Fuckers. I HATE IT when my government rips me off.
> Oh, I can and do make phenomenally better returns outside of SS, but
> unlike you, moron, I don't like being robbed by my President.
>[/color]
I, for one, do not like my time being robbed by posts from ASSHOLES like
you.
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:33:26 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1133906226.329078.101210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>
>> Mark wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> > I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment,
>>> > you're damned right.
>>>
>>> You're getting a return all right, it's just that it's going to all the
>>> people who paid 1% to 3% of a small percentage of their income decades
>>> ago. It's a fact dude, get over it and start telling your Liberal
>>> buddies up there to get their butts in gear to make changes.
>>>
>>> [url]http://ss.pjdoland.com/archives/2005/01/_calendar_year.php[/url][/color]
>>
>> All that article shows me is that Bush is robbing the United States
>> coffers blind. Fuckers. I HATE IT when my government rips me off.
>> Oh, I can and do make phenomenally better returns outside of SS, but
>> unlike you, moron, I don't like being robbed by my President.
>>[/color]
>
>I, for one, do not like my time being robbed by posts from ASSHOLES like
>you.
>[/color]
Typical republican.
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:01:49 -0800, ravelation wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> [email]Trueno@ae86.GTS[/email] (Hachiroku) wrote:
>[color=green]
>>HEY!!!
>>I WAS A UNION MEMBER FOR 10
> >YEARS!!![/color]
>
> Pssst. I'm a union member RIGHT NOW!![/color]
Which one? Machinists and Aerospace Workers here.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>><you're absolutely right, I believe...>[/color]
>
> Yes, I am. You wouldn't believe the $$ the unions spent taking down
> Arnold's initiatives. The number thrown around is $10mil.[/color]
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:48:25 -0800, Learning Richard wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> ravelation wrote:[color=green]
>> [email]Trueno@ae86.GTS[/email] (Hachiroku) wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >HEY!!!
>> >I WAS A UNION MEMBER FOR 10
>> >YEARS!!![/color]
>>
>> Pssst. I'm a union member RIGHT NOW!!
>>[color=darkred]
>> ><you're absolutely right, I believe...>[/color]
>>
>> Yes, I am. You wouldn't believe the $$ the unions spent taking down
>> Arnold's initiatives. The number thrown around is $10mil.[/color]
>
> That's what we have unions for. Sounds to me like they did a damned
> good job. Now they can save GM and Delphi's asses for the workers.[/color]
Nah. let the Government do it like they did for Chrysler.
But, Chrysler learned the lesson, came back and PAID BACK the loans! I'm
afraid bailing GM would result in a lot of lost money from the Treasury..
On 6 Dec 2005 13:57:06 -0800, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>Mark wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment, you're damned right.[/color]
>>
>> You're getting a return all right, it's just that it's going to all the
>> people who paid 1% to 3% of a small percentage of their income decades
>> ago. It's a fact dude, get over it and start telling your Liberal
>> buddies up there to get their butts in gear to make changes.
>>
>> [url]http://ss.pjdoland.com/archives/2005/01/_calendar_year.php[/url][/color]
>
>All that article shows me is that Bush is robbing the United States
>coffers blind. Fuckers. I HATE IT when my government rips me off.
>Oh, I can and do make phenomenally better returns outside of SS, but
>unlike you, moron, I don't like being robbed by my President.[/color]
You are a trip.
Your President is trying to fix Social Security....and all you
leftists oppose fixing the system.
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:33:26 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1133906226.329078.101210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>
>> Mark wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> > I am counting on Social Security to give me a return on my investment,
>>> > you're damned right.
>>>
>>> You're getting a return all right, it's just that it's going to all the
>>> people who paid 1% to 3% of a small percentage of their income decades
>>> ago. It's a fact dude, get over it and start telling your Liberal
>>> buddies up there to get their butts in gear to make changes.
>>>
>>> [url]http://ss.pjdoland.com/archives/2005/01/_calendar_year.php[/url][/color]
>>
>> All that article shows me is that Bush is robbing the United States
>> coffers blind. Fuckers. I HATE IT when my government rips me off.
>> Oh, I can and do make phenomenally better returns outside of SS, but
>> unlike you, moron, I don't like being robbed by my President.
>>[/color]
>
>I, for one, do not like my time being robbed by posts from ASSHOLES like
>you.
>[/color]
Would you get off the damned fence and tell us what you really feel
about learning dick?
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:48:42 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:48:25 -0800, Learning Richard wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> ravelation wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> [email]Trueno@ae86.GTS[/email] (Hachiroku) wrote:
>>>
>>> >HEY!!!
>>> >I WAS A UNION MEMBER FOR 10
>>> >YEARS!!!
>>>
>>> Pssst. I'm a union member RIGHT NOW!!
>>>
>>> ><you're absolutely right, I believe...>
>>>
>>> Yes, I am. You wouldn't believe the $$ the unions spent taking down
>>> Arnold's initiatives. The number thrown around is $10mil.[/color]
>>
>> That's what we have unions for. Sounds to me like they did a damned
>> good job. Now they can save GM and Delphi's asses for the workers.[/color]
>
>Nah. let the Government do it like they did for Chrysler.
>
>But, Chrysler learned the lesson, came back and PAID BACK the loans! I'm
>afraid bailing GM would result in a lot of lost money from the Treasury..[/color]
All the government did for Crapsler was guarantee the loans...
The government would be crazy to guarantee anything for GM...
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