OT TOOKIE and I Have Such Different Lives -- In America

[Last few paragraphs of what I found to be a thought-provoking article]

Late on Monday night, I will go through security at San Quentin prison
and get on a bus with a bunch of other reporters to go to the death
chamber and watch Williams die. They say we won't be allowed to bring
anything with us. They will issue us a pencil and notebook.

I have seen people die before. I've seen them die by gunshot, disease
and in a flaming car. I've seen the aftermath of a car bombing in
Baghdad. But I've never seen a man walk into a room healthy, and be
rolled out 15 minutes later dead on a gurney.

My wife says her stomach is churning at the prospect of me watching
this. I've been thinking about how far my world is from Tookie's.

The last few days, I've been dancing with my nine-year-old daughter in
the annual "Nutcracker" ballet at her school. It's incredibly sweet.

I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his world,
and he will never know mine.

<http://abcnews.go.com/US/WNT/story?id=1395059>

Apparently the writer has never visited City Hospital in NYC, if that is the
case. ;)

mike hunt


"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134327742.806996.287820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> [Last few paragraphs of what I found to be a thought-provoking article]
>
> Late on Monday night, I will go through security at San Quentin prison
> and get on a bus with a bunch of other reporters to go to the death
> chamber and watch Williams die. They say we won't be allowed to bring
> anything with us. They will issue us a pencil and notebook.
>
> I have seen people die before. I've seen them die by gunshot, disease
> and in a flaming car. I've seen the aftermath of a car bombing in
> Baghdad. But I've never seen a man walk into a room healthy, and be
> rolled out 15 minutes later dead on a gurney.[/color]

These pleas for clemency are hilarious, asking Arnold to be
"Kindergarten Cop" instead of "Terminator". Typical liberal detachment
from reality...

[url]http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/11/1784153.php[/url]

I say fry'im, shoot'im, whatever it takes to get him off the taxpayers'
backs after 24 years. What a load of crap that is.

Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:02:22 PM, wrote:

[snipped bleeding heart ooze]
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> I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his
> world, and he will never know mine.[/color]

And neither will the family of the people he murdered in cold blood
know their loved ones.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:37:38 +0000, badgolferman spake:
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> Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:02:22 PM, wrote:
>
> [snipped bleeding heart ooze]
>[color=green]
>> I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his
>> world, and he will never know mine.[/color]
>
> And neither will the family of the people he murdered in cold blood
> know their loved ones.[/color]

Prove that he murdered them.

Oh, you can't.

Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:41:01 PM, wrote:
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> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:37:38 +0000, badgolferman spake:
>[color=green]
> > Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:02:22 PM, wrote:
> >
> > [snipped bleeding heart ooze]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his
> >> world, and he will never know mine.[/color]
> >
> > And neither will the family of the people he murdered in cold blood
> > know their loved ones.[/color]
>
> Prove that he murdered them.
>
> Oh, you can't.[/color]

That's not my job, Mr. Defense Attorney. Apparently no other lawyer
has been able to do that either.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:41:01 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:37:38 +0000, badgolferman spake:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:02:22 PM, wrote:
> > >
> > > [snipped bleeding heart ooze]
> > >
> > >> I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his
> > >> world, and he will never know mine.
> > >
> > > And neither will the family of the people he murdered in cold blood
> > > know their loved ones.[/color]
> >
> > Prove that he murdered them.
> >
> > Oh, you can't.[/color]
>
> That's not my job, Mr. Defense Attorney. Apparently no other lawyer
> has been able to do that either.[/color]

There's quite a bit of doubt that he committed the crimes in a great
deal of folks' minds. Therefore, he should get life without parole.

Notwithstanding any good he may have done in society.

Then again, as you may have guessed, I don't feel comfortable knowing
that the government has a right to exterminate me.

> Then again, as you may have guessed, I don't feel comfortable knowing[color=blue]
> that the government has a right to exterminate me.[/color]

If you weren't such a pest neither would we.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:53:06 +0000, Mark spake:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Then again, as you may have guessed, I don't feel comfortable knowing
>> that the government has a right to exterminate me.[/color]
>
> If you weren't such a pest neither would we.[/color]

You're my biggest fan... sweetie

On 11 Dec 2005 11:46:12 -0800, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
>> Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:41:01 PM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:37:38 +0000, badgolferman spake:
>> >
>> > > Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,2:02:22 PM, wrote:
>> > >
>> > > [snipped bleeding heart ooze]
>> > >
>> > >> I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his
>> > >> world, and he will never know mine.
>> > >
>> > > And neither will the family of the people he murdered in cold blood
>> > > know their loved ones.
>> >
>> > Prove that he murdered them.
>> >
>> > Oh, you can't.[/color]
>>
>> That's not my job, Mr. Defense Attorney. Apparently no other lawyer
>> has been able to do that either.[/color]
>
>There's quite a bit of doubt that he committed the crimes in a great
>deal of folks' minds. Therefore, he should get life without parole.
>
>Notwithstanding any good he may have done in society.
>
>Then again, as you may have guessed, I don't feel comfortable knowing
>that the government has a right to exterminate me.[/color]

Yes if I were you....I'd worry about the government exterminating
you....LOL


--

Scott in Florida

Mark wrote:[color=blue]
> These pleas for clemency are hilarious, asking Arnold to be
> "Kindergarten Cop" instead of "Terminator". Typical liberal detachment
> from reality...
>
> [url]http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/11/1784153.php[/url]
>
> I say fry'im, shoot'im, whatever it takes to get him off the taxpayers'
> backs after 24 years. What a load of crap that is.[/color]

If we're lucky, you'll be falsely convicted and sentenced to the lethal
drip.

Not that I'm saying Tookie was falsely convicted... but I'm about as
qualified to say either way as my cat is.

Mark, you are so hopeless. But if I find out you're facing the drip,
I'll take the same position on your behalf.

Mike Hunter wrote:[color=blue]
> Apparently the writer has never visited City Hospital in NYC, if that is the
> case. ;)
>
> mike hunt[/color]

Oh? Are you an ER doctor this week, too?

Don't worry Richard, if you are convicted, I will be glad to complete
the circuit for you, and it won't take 24 years either.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134327742.806996.287820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> [Last few paragraphs of what I found to be a thought-provoking article]
>
> Late on Monday night, I will go through security at San Quentin prison
> and get on a bus with a bunch of other reporters to go to the death
> chamber and watch Williams die. They say we won't be allowed to bring
> anything with us. They will issue us a pencil and notebook.
>
> I have seen people die before. I've seen them die by gunshot, disease
> and in a flaming car. I've seen the aftermath of a car bombing in
> Baghdad. But I've never seen a man walk into a room healthy, and be
> rolled out 15 minutes later dead on a gurney.
>
> My wife says her stomach is churning at the prospect of me watching
> this. I've been thinking about how far my world is from Tookie's.
>
> The last few days, I've been dancing with my nine-year-old daughter in
> the annual "Nutcracker" ballet at her school. It's incredibly sweet.
>
> I've been thinking how I will never know Tookie Williams and his world,
> and he will never know mine.
>
> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/WNT/story?id=1395059>
>[/color]

Didn't he run the crypts gang and was responsible for at least 4 deaths? I
think Arnold will stay his execution, give this guy a life sentence instead.

Mark wrote:[color=blue]
> Don't worry Richard, if you are convicted, I will be glad to complete
> the circuit for you, and it won't take 24 years either.[/color]

Your hatred of me is taking years off of your life, sweetie.

xox,

LR