Re: Origin Sticker question

Umm, I meant 462,000 Camrys, Avalons, and Siennas
are assembled in Kentucky, not NUMMI.

For those sweet Aichi machines that were made in Japan,
the parts content shows 80 percent USA/Canada parts and
20 percent Japan parts. But the engine and tranz both
show the origin as Japan.

Are the engine and transmission counted as a single
part each; how does that work?

Also, if their origin is Japan, does that mean the
engine and tranz are composed of Japanese parts
exclusively, or perhaps they too contain some
"AC Delco"-like parts from USA/Canada?

By the way, I'm sure *most* U.S. and Candadian parts
are superb as I know my fellow Americans make top-notch
products, but I fear there might be one or two sub-par
parts that might have snuck in there, and that's why I
really wanted to replace my superb "J-Vin" Tercel with a
"J-Vin" Camry.

Alas, you just can't count on American management like
you can Japanese management, I suppose--and I say that as
being one-hundred percent American, so don't blame our
Japanese friends for this post :-)

Thanks so much.

By the way, in my previous post, I was blaming American
*management*, not American/Canadian *Workers*. Like Mike
Hunter, I also believe quality is a function
of management.

I think workers are equally competent around the world. So
if one country makes better cars than another, I would
guess it's because *MANAGEMENT* is taking short cuts
to save money--say using inferior parts or following the
principles of built-in obsolescence or
lowering quality control all to save money. Yet it
sure has backfired over the past 2 decades as *Management*
has led GM and Ford to the brink of bankruptcy.

Does Rick Wagoner really deserve a yearly pay of 4.66 million?
I have to wonder how much Mister Watanabe and Mr. Suzuki
of Toyota are making....

In Japan? It is many more MILLIONS, for sure LOL

mike hunt


"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:9Z6dnehitstNFizeRVn-qA@sysmatrix.net...[color=blue]
> By the way, in my previous post, I was blaming American
> *management*, not American/Canadian *Workers*. Like Mike
> Hunter, I also believe quality is a function
> of management.
>
> I think workers are equally competent around the world. So
> if one country makes better cars than another, I would
> guess it's because *MANAGEMENT* is taking short cuts
> to save money--say using inferior parts or following the
> principles of built-in obsolescence or
> lowering quality control all to save money. Yet it
> sure has backfired over the past 2 decades as *Management*
> has led GM and Ford to the brink of bankruptcy.
>
> Does Rick Wagoner really deserve a yearly pay of 4.66 million?
> I have to wonder how much Mister Watanabe and Mr. Suzuki
> of Toyota are making....[/color]

How funny is this. Right now you can buy a new
Dodge Caravan for the price of a Corolla.

A minivan for the price of a compact car....

Everybody's lowering prices to rock bottom, but
not Toyota. Toyota knows people will pay for
quality.

Really? According to 'Automotive News' Toyota has a 80 day supply of
leftover 2005 models, longer than do any of the domestics which average less
than a 50 day supply of leftover 2005s. Toyota currently is advertising
higher rebates on its 2006 cars than some domestics. The rebate on some of
Toyotas 2006 cars is $750 while many domestic 2006 cars models have no
rebates. Apparently Toyota thinks price IS important.


mike hunt




"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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> How funny is this. Right now you can buy a new
> Dodge Caravan for the price of a Corolla.
>
> A minivan for the price of a compact car....
>
> Everybody's lowering prices to rock bottom, but
> not Toyota. Toyota knows people will pay for
> quality.[/color]

Hachiroku, would you happen to know the answer to this
question?

For those wonderful Aichi machines on my dealer's
lot that were made in Japan, the parts content shows
80 percent USA/Canada parts and 20 percent Japan parts.
But the engine and tranz both show the origin as Japan.

Are the engine and transmission counted as a single
part each; how does that work?

Plus, since their origin is Japan, does that mean
the engine and tranz are composed of Japanese parts
exclusively, or perhaps they too contain some
parts from North America?

Thanks a zillion! Your knowledge is vast.

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hachiroku, would you happen to know the answer to this
>question?
>
> For those wonderful Aichi machines on my dealer's
>lot that were made in Japan, the parts content shows
>80 percent USA/Canada parts and 20 percent Japan parts.
>But the engine and tranz both show the origin as Japan.
>
> Are the engine and transmission counted as a single
>part each; how does that work?
>
> Plus, since their origin is Japan, does that mean
>the engine and tranz are composed of Japanese parts
>exclusively, or perhaps they too contain some
>parts from North America?
>
> Thanks a zillion! Your knowledge is vast.[/color]

Dunno 'bout that now, I asked him a question last week and he
didn't know the answer, so perhaps his knowledge is only
half-vast?... :)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

Hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
>
> I was working at a Toyota dealer this [*SUMMER*]... We did have
> one [Camry] come in with the [Japan] Origin Sticker you mentioned.
> There were a few more after that, but most were made in the u.s.a.[/color]


Hachiroku, an internet sales manager 100 miles away from me in
Saint Louis, emailed me this message about their Japan Camry
availability:

"It seems as though the [Gray] Camry is the only Japanese Camry
we are going to get until next year. My Manager said imported Camrys
usually come only at the *END OF THE YEAR*. This has to do with the way
production, and allocation are set-up." [End of Quote]

Interesting that your few Aichi Camrys arrived at the dealership
during the SUMMER, yet the Saint Louis dealer says they usually only
get'em at YEAR END.

This is important to me, since if ordinarily Aichi Camrys only
come at Year-End, I better buy one fast, instead of wating for the
Silver Japan Camry I'm looking for. But I'm not crazy about the
Gray Japan Camry they have.