OT: Horrifying

Frightening statistic:

"Each year, the average car emits
about 10,000 pounds (3 times its weight!) in
carbon dioxide pollution, a leading cause of
Global Warming."

Yow, I had no idear...

3 times the car's weight...

Source: [url]www.participate.net/terrapass[/url]

Built_Well, 12/17/2005,3:39:01 PM, wrote:
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> Frightening statistic:
>
> "Each year, the average car emits
> about 10,000 pounds (3 times its weight!) in
> carbon dioxide pollution, a leading cause of
> Global Warming."
>
> Yow, I had no idear...
>
> 3 times the car's weight...
>
> Source: [url]www.participate.net/terrapass[/url][/color]

Your source is dubious. Movie fans that are activists.

--
"Politics is supposed be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realise that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." ~ Ronald
Reagan.

1 straight month of below average temperatures here; I think I'll go let my
car idle overnight, and my snowblower, and my lawnmower...

Global Warming is our friend!
Steve


"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:Ad2dnd56d9b85DneRVn-pQ@sysmatrix.net...[color=blue]
> Frightening statistic:
>
> "Each year, the average car emits
> about 10,000 pounds (3 times its weight!) in
> carbon dioxide pollution, a leading cause of
> Global Warming."
>
> Yow, I had no idear...
>
> 3 times the car's weight...
>
> Source: [url]www.participate.net/terrapass[/url][/color]

Built_Well wrote:[color=blue]
> Frightening statistic:[/color]

No worries. The Bush puppet said so.

[url]http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0829-02.htm[/url]

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Your source is dubious. Movie fans that are activists.[/color]

Perhaps, but the numbers sounded about right to me.

And the average car does most of this stuck in traffic for several hours a
week, sometimes several hours a day.





"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:Ad2dnd56d9b85DneRVn-pQ@sysmatrix.net...[color=blue]
> Frightening statistic:
>
> "Each year, the average car emits
> about 10,000 pounds (3 times its weight!) in
> carbon dioxide pollution, a leading cause of
> Global Warming."
>
> Yow, I had no idear...
>
> 3 times the car's weight...
>
> Source: [url]www.participate.net/terrapass[/url][/color]

What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt any
highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
there but has become too small to do its job. Once the environmentalists
stop a road, a new batch of environmentalists j8mp in and complain that cars
emit too much CO2. But, if they allowed the highway projects to go through,
there would be less CO@ because the cars would be on the road for an hour
instead of 3 hours.

Environmentalists need to pick the battle, then not complain when then win
it.




"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:Ad2dnd56d9b85DneRVn-pQ@sysmatrix.net...[color=blue]
> Frightening statistic:
>
> "Each year, the average car emits
> about 10,000 pounds (3 times its weight!) in
> carbon dioxide pollution, a leading cause of
> Global Warming."
>
> Yow, I had no idear...
>
> 3 times the car's weight...
>
> Source: [url]www.participate.net/terrapass[/url][/color]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
[color=blue]
>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt any
>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]

Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
public transportation, would do more good.

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Gary L. Burnore wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
><crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
>[color=green]
>>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt any
>>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]
>
>Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
>public transportation, would do more good.[/color]

Wrong. Public transport isn't even close to satisfactory. Only a
small niche (i.e. people who work downtown) really benefit from it.

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
>><crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt
>>>any
>>>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>>>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]
>>
>>Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
>>public transportation, would do more good.[/color]
>
> Wrong. Public transport isn't even close to satisfactory. Only a
> small niche (i.e. people who work downtown) really benefit from it.
>[/color]

OH MY GOD. I find my self agreeing with Dizzy on this one. My brother
works downtown and takes the train in. I drive to my suburban job. I can
drive in 90 minutes what would take well over 3 hours by train, i.e. I would
have to go downtown and then out to the suburb I work at.

Looking for the 3 Wise Guys. Isn't that Bonano, Gambino and Capone? <g>

Charles

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:39:01 -0500, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Frightening statistic:
>
>"Each year, the average car emits
>about 10,000 pounds (3 times its weight!) in
>carbon dioxide pollution, a leading cause of
>Global Warming."
>
> Yow, I had no idear...
>
> 3 times the car's weight...
>
>Source: [url]www.participate.net/terrapass[/url][/color]

Solution?

Plant a tree....

--

Scott in Florida

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:do23kg$sm5$6@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
>[color=green]
>>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt
>>any
>>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]
>
> Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
> public transportation, would do more good.[/color]


Perhaps it would have done more good before the cars were purchased. But,
most of us find that a car is a necessity, and until the infrastructure
provides meaningful transportation options, then the cars will remain. So,
now we're back to the original point, the cars are already here but are
mired in traffic that is caused in no small part by environmental concerns.
Now that we are collectively mired in our own shit, the environmentalists
now bitch that the smell is too strong. Pick your battle, then don't
complain about the results when you win.

And, no, I'm not ignoring anything.

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:do23kg$sm5$6@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
>[color=green]
>>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt
>>any
>>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]
>
> Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
> public transportation, would do more good.
>
> --
> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com[/color]

Spoken like a city dweller.

--

- Philip

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
>><crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt
>>>any
>>>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>>>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]
>>
>>Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
>>public transportation, would do more good.[/color]
>
> Wrong. Public transport isn't even close to satisfactory. Only a
> small niche (i.e. people who work downtown) really benefit from it.
>[/color]

That is certainly true in America, but there are lots of countries where
public transit provides meaningful transportation options no only within a
city, but within the entire country, and in some cases to neighboring
countries as well. American transportation is by no means a unique problem,
but public transit can work if there is enough of it. The problem we have is
much like the chicken-or-the-egg question. We have crappy public transit
because nobody uses it, but nobody uses it because it is crappy. Until it
improves, people will not use it, but until people will use it, nobody can
justify funding it. So, we never get it and we build more and more cars as a
result -- the complaint in this thread being that the cars emit CO2, mostly
because they are trapped in overtaxed roadways that carry double or triple
(or even more) the traffic they were designed to carry.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:39:12 GMT, "Philip"
<1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>news:do23kg$sm5$6@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:10:07 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@yahoo.com> top posted like an ignorant fucking moron and wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>What I find "horrifying" is that enviromentalists are the first to halt
>>>any
>>>highway project, even if the project is to replace a raod that is already
>>>there but has become too small to do its job.[/color]
>>
>> Of course you're ignoring the fact that the same money spent wisely on
>> public transportation, would do more good.
>>
>> --
>> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com[/color]
>
>Spoken like a city dweller.[/color]

Irrelevent, of course. (And I'm not). Public transportation works.
Oil companies and republicans would rather you not use it, of course.

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