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Old 12-21-2005, 03:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: OT SENATE PASSES A WORKER FRIENDLY BUDGET BILL

The train from the east will meet the train from the west at some point east
of Chicago, at 2:00 PM on a Tuesday LOL

mike hunt



"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135192363.473186.257980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Mike Hunter wrote:[color=green]
>> More lies and left wing propaganda. There are NO cuts in the amount of[/color][/color]
money the government will spend. What is being reduced is the amount of the
annual increases, built into government expenses, by $1 of every $1,000
spent That will help reduce the budget deficit that is so much of a
problem for those on the left, yet they voted against doing so.

History proves that ever time tax rates and capital gains taxes, the seed
corn of any economy that will produce new jobs, have been reduced it has
resulted in more income to the US treasury, not less. Japan does not tax
capital at all. Japan in fact offers a tax credit for capital earned in
other countries, that is returned to Japan. Even when it is earned as tax
free profits in other countries like the US. The recent US tax RATE cuts,
that went to every taxpayer in the US, is the engine that has been driving
the current robust economy since 9/11. Failing to make those reductions
permanent and reducing the budget will hurt the ever expanding income to the
treasury, further increasing the budget deficit and reducing the capital
that has been increasing the millions of new jobs for the so called working
man in the US.

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> I usually try to ignore you "Mike Kunt", since you are so ridiculously
> STUPID.
>
> If the inflation index is 5%, and the Senate reduces entitlement
> increases to 4%, who is losing then, you stupid racist lump of rotting
> flesh?
>[/color]


 
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: OT SENATE PASSES A RICH-FRIENDLY BUDGET BILL

In article <1135181421.502041.15710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
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> This bill cuts:
>
> 1. Child Support Enforcement
> 2. Medicaid
> 3. Medicare
> 4. Student Aid
> 5. Food Stamps
> and more!
>
> Neocons and Republicans are trumpeting the passage -- the tie was
> broken by Dick Cheney, who for some reason has not been arrested yet
> for multiple felony violations.
>
> Meanwhile, capital gains tax cuts and other "Wealthy-Friendly"
> provisions remain intact.
>
> Republican claims to be for "the average working person", though once
> again proven to be lies, have gone unanswered and without comment by
> the Senate Elite Neocons (see Bill Frist, et al).[/color]

we are all going to go to hell.
--
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit."

Vince Lombardi



 
Old 12-21-2005, 04:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: OT SENATE PASSES A RICH-FRIENDLY BUDGET BILL

The more one make in the US the more one pays in taxes. Not only do you pay
more, you pay taxes at a higher tax RATE as well. According to the IRS site
more than 45% of workers in the US pay little or no taxes and the truly poor
not only do not pay any taxes the get TAX rebates in a greater amount than
was withheld, as well as checks from the state and federal governments.
When I was a kid there was little work for most people and even less for
blacks and there were no checks from the government. Still my mom and dad
kept us in food and clothing till the WWII made real work. ;)


mike hunt


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>>What do the top 5% get more from society than the put into it?[/color]
>
> Because the rich have better lobbyists than the poor, duh.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 12/21/2005, 2:24:51 PM,
> <1135193091.515828.101880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > There is something definitely wrong with your thinking. The rich
> > > pay way more taxes to the government than the poor or middle class
> > > do.[/color]
> >
> > As a percentage of their income? You mean to tell me that folks who
> > get 7 and 8 figure salaries actually deserve to pay such a paltry
> > pennance of their wealth?[/color]
>
> Deserve? Are you still in the entitlement mode? Regardless, we both
> know that the tax laws will never change to anything resembling a Fair
> Tax. The rich will always have to pay a larger percentage of their
> income compared to the rest.[/color]

hah! You believe that?
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> There will always be the assumption that
> "they have more money so they can give up more", similar to the
> entitlement mentality.[/color]

So, you don't like living here? You don't like being a member of
humanity? You're right I don't like giving entitlements to those who
don't need them -- for instance Exxon Mobil, or Halliburton.
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>[color=green]
> > In fact (and I digress slightly), the middle class gives a much larger
> > percentage of their income to charity (I've hear 2.4%, whereas those
> > who make over 150k give about 0.8%).[/color]
>
> I give nearly 10% -- who are the other slackers. When it comes to[/color]

Some folks are too leveraged to their SUVs and HDTVs to give more.
[color=blue]
> charity, the donee is more interested in the amount given rather than
> the percentage of the person's income. Bill Gates' billion dollar
> donations are much more substantial than my few thousand dollar
> donations. What I give to my church is because of my desire to help
> with God's work. If the government mandated I give so much to my
> church (or any other organization) I would resent that tremondously.[/color]

Why do you keep bringing God into the discussion? Your relationship
with God is your business, not mine.
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>[color=green]
> > Yeah and I benefit from capital gains tax reductions as well, but I
> > don't deserve those benefits if it means that the parent of a poor
> > child has to skip her dinner so her kid can eat, after she spent a day
> > serving up combo meals at McDonalds, because suddenly she earns too
> > much for food stamps.[/color]
>
> If you don't deserve those benefits pass them on to a charity where
> they will be used to feed that woman. Stop passing the buck and do
> something yourself to help others.[/color]

You make such absurd assumptions -- its funny, they're here in black
and white, I don't need to comment on them.

 
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