No more Avalon - Merry Christmas to me

Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon for
a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.

In article <wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Art
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon for
> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]

I wish you many happy miles and years, Art. Will you be reporting your
experiences in a Honda newsgroup?

Brent

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon
> for a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]

UGH!!!!!! Honda, get the FUCK out of all Toyota newgroups. And take your
naive, ignorant politics with you.

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>
>[/color]

"Brent Secombe" <bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:251220052252203825%bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk...[color=blue]
> In article <wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Art
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon
>> for
>> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]
>
> I wish you many happy miles and years, Art. Will you be reporting your
> experiences in a Honda newsgroup?
>
> Brent[/color]

Apparently there are 2 Honda groups. I haven't looked at either yet. Just
for the record, we considered the Sienna too. Basically it was a toss up
and considering the rattles and other issues in my Avalon we went with the
Honda. What is interesting is how much minivans have improved. Mileage on
the Honda Touring is 20/28 EPA which is about the same as my 2001 Avalon.
The price wasn't too different either. My wife loves the power doors and
tailgate. And unlike the Avalon, the dashboard and everything else was
installed straight.

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:_KTrf.9757$3Z.2257@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> "Brent Secombe" <bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:251220052252203825%bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk...[color=green]
>> In article <wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Art
>> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon
>>> for
>>> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]
>>
>> I wish you many happy miles and years, Art. Will you be reporting your
>> experiences in a Honda newsgroup?
>>
>> Brent[/color]
>
> Apparently there are 2 Honda groups. I haven't looked at either yet.
> Just for the record, we considered the Sienna too. Basically it was a
> toss up and considering the rattles and other issues in my Avalon we went
> with the Honda. What is interesting is how much minivans have improved.
> Mileage on the Honda Touring is 20/28 EPA which is about the same as my
> 2001 Avalon. The price wasn't too different either. My wife loves the
> power doors and tailgate. And unlike the Avalon, the dashboard and
> everything else was installed straight.
>[/color]

Oh well! Art, I wish you well. Matter of fact, you bring to mind ...

"Everyone brings happiness to this forum. Some when they arrive and some
when they leave"

-Philip

Art wrote:[color=blue]
> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon for
> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]

Praise Allah.

Hmmm looks like some Toyota buyers are discovering the Toyota make bad cars
too. Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car lots of
many brand 'X' dealers. ;)

mike hunt


"Brent Secombe" <bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:251220052252203825%bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk...[color=blue]
> In article <wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Art
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon
>> for
>> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]
>
> I wish you many happy miles and years, Art. Will you be reporting your
> experiences in a Honda newsgroup?
>
> Brent[/color]

The dealer is a mega dealer and owns a Toyota dealership. My Avalon will
probably end up there.

By the way, I tried to use KBB and Edmunds to estimate trade-in value. What
a waste. They differ by 2 grand. I checked my 300M pricing too. They vary
by thousands on that car too.


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Hmmm looks like some Toyota buyers are discovering the Toyota make bad
> cars too. Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car
> lots of many brand 'X' dealers. ;)
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Brent Secombe" <bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:251220052252203825%bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk...[color=green]
>> In article <wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Art
>> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon
>>> for
>>> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.[/color]
>>
>> I wish you many happy miles and years, Art. Will you be reporting your
>> experiences in a Honda newsgroup?
>>
>> Brent[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:671sf.842$M%4.699@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> The dealer is a mega dealer and owns a Toyota dealership. My Avalon will
> probably end up there.
>
> By the way, I tried to use KBB and Edmunds to estimate trade-in value.
> What a waste. They differ by 2 grand. I checked my 300M pricing too.
> They vary by thousands on that car too.[/color]

My theory on determining used car values is to take the vehicle to CarMax
(if you have one near-by) and let them quote you a price. They know what
their cost for buying a similar car will be. I figure you add a few hundred
to their quote to determine your real trade in value (not the inflated feel
good number the dealers give you).

Regards,

Ed White

In article <ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
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> Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car lots of
> many brand 'X' dealers.[/color]

Seems like there are a lot of Toyotas showing up everywhere. But that
makes sense, as more Toyotas passenger cars (not trucks) are sold in the
US than any other brand.

Merritt

Merritt Mullen wrote:
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> In article <ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car lots of
>> many brand 'X' dealers.[/color]
>
> Seems like there are a lot of Toyotas showing up everywhere. But that
> makes sense, as more Toyotas passenger cars (not trucks) are sold in the
> US than any other brand.
>
> Merritt[/color]

I guess it depends on where you are. In my area, used Toyotas of any model
year on private lots are rare. Even though Toyota may sell more cars than
the big 3, I still see a hell of a lot more big 3 cars on private used lots
than Toyotas (and Hondas for that matter).

The question remains if Toyotas are superior as some claim, why are their
owners buying other brands and not buying another Toyota? ;)


mike hunt


"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97394EFA5BBEChightechmisfit@207.35.177.134...[color=blue]
> Merritt Mullen wrote:
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>> In article <ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car lots of
>>> many brand 'X' dealers.[/color]
>>
>> Seems like there are a lot of Toyotas showing up everywhere. But that
>> makes sense, as more Toyotas passenger cars (not trucks) are sold in the
>> US than any other brand.
>>
>> Merritt[/color]
>
> I guess it depends on where you are. In my area, used Toyotas of any
> model
> year on private lots are rare. Even though Toyota may sell more cars than
> the big 3, I still see a hell of a lot more big 3 cars on private used
> lots
> than Toyotas (and Hondas for that matter).[/color]

Any other brand yes, however GM and Ford sell far more cars than Toyota
under their various brand names. It is like Ford saying their trucks are
number one but GM actually sells more trucks then Ford, but not under one
brand name. One must really listen closely to Toyotas press releases they
have a way of using the Language to confuse, like the claim their vehicles
are made in America, when they are merely assembled in the US of mostly
imported parts. Notice when they refer to sales they never say Toyota
Motors, only Toyota so their total sales of cars, or trucks, or both are not
compared to GM and FMC ;)

mike hunt


"Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:mmullen8014-1F8911.22180326122005@netnews.asp.att.net...[color=blue]
> In article <ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car lots of
>> many brand 'X' dealers.[/color]
>
> Seems like there are a lot of Toyotas showing up everywhere. But that
> makes sense, as more Toyotas passenger cars (not trucks) are sold in the
> US than any other brand.
>
> Merritt[/color]

The best place to find the most accurate prices at which vehicles are
actually selling, in the retail market, is nadagudes.com

mike hunt


"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:671sf.842$M%4.699@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> The dealer is a mega dealer and owns a Toyota dealership. My Avalon will
> probably end up there.
>
> By the way, I tried to use KBB and Edmunds to estimate trade-in value.
> What a waste. They differ by 2 grand. I checked my 300M pricing too.
> They vary by thousands on that car too.
>
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Hmmm looks like some Toyota buyers are discovering the Toyota make bad
>> cars too. Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car
>> lots of many brand 'X' dealers. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Brent Secombe" <bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:251220052252203825%bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk...[color=darkred]
>>> In article <wLIrf.10285$nm.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Art
>>> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Friday I got myself an early Christmas gift. We traded the 2001 Avalon
>>>> for
>>>> a 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring minivan.
>>>
>>> I wish you many happy miles and years, Art. Will you be reporting your
>>> experiences in a Honda newsgroup?
>>>
>>> Brent[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

The question you need to answer is WHO is buying those USED Toyotas off your
lots? LOL Another question is what are all the Toyota dealers doing with
all the FORDS they take in trade?


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:g-6dnc3O893T-CzeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> The question remains if Toyotas are superior as some claim, why are their
> owners buying other brands and not buying another Toyota? ;)
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns97394EFA5BBEChightechmisfit@207.35.177.134...[color=green]
>> Merritt Mullen wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> In article <ecOcneukJtUGDS3eUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems there an awful lot of Toyotas showing up on the used car lots of
>>>> many brand 'X' dealers.
>>>
>>> Seems like there are a lot of Toyotas showing up everywhere. But that
>>> makes sense, as more Toyotas passenger cars (not trucks) are sold in the
>>> US than any other brand.
>>>
>>> Merritt[/color]
>>
>> I guess it depends on where you are. In my area, used Toyotas of any
>> model
>> year on private lots are rare. Even though Toyota may sell more cars
>> than
>> the big 3, I still see a hell of a lot more big 3 cars on private used
>> lots
>> than Toyotas (and Hondas for that matter).[/color]
>
>[/color]