Talk about expensive parts. ouch

Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost of
replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all four
doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the thieves.
The Highlander doors are even more expensive.


mike hunt

> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced[color=blue]
> part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
> stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
> unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost of
> replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all four
> doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the thieves.
> The Highlander doors are even more expensive.[/color]

$5,200 per door? Times 4 = $20,800. Now you know wutz the rest of yer car's
worth. LOL

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:0sCcnVhCnZWSEy3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
> part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
> stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to
> unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost of
> replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all four
> doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the thieves.
> The Highlander doors are even more expensive.[/color]

I think you need to check the facts on this one. I just took a quick look at
the prices for Camry door parts at
[url]http://www.toyota-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm[/url] and if you bought every single
part in the door separately, you wouldn't be anywhere near $5,200. The
total cost of all new parts, from this Toyota dealer would be less than
$1800 for a front door. I realize some assembly would be required, but I
also realize that some of the parts are available from alternate sources for
lower prices (and probably lower quality as well). I would guess a junk yard
should be willing to sell you a door for under $1200. Now I suppose stealing
4 doors off a Camry might net a thief a few thousand dollars. However, if
you have the time to steal four doors, why not just take the whole car? I am
confident it would be faster to load the car on a rollback than removing
four doors from a parked car (and less obvious).

Any insurance company that is paying $5200 per Toyota door deserves to go
out of business.

Ed

The figure given was what the insurance agent said they paid the body shop
as the cost of replacing the rear door on the vehicle. If the Tribune
Newspapers report was faulty, tell them, or at least call the insurance
company and tell them YOU will do it for less LOL

mike hunt


"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mudspring.com> wrote in message
news:g33sf.652285$x96.166675@attbi_s72...[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:0sCcnVhCnZWSEy3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them
>> to unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost
>> of replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all
>> four doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the
>> thieves. The Highlander doors are even more expensive.[/color]
>
> I think you need to check the facts on this one. I just took a quick look
> at the prices for Camry door parts at
> [url]http://www.toyota-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm[/url] and if you bought every
> single part in the door separately, you wouldn't be anywhere near $5,200.
> The total cost of all new parts, from this Toyota dealer would be less
> than $1800 for a front door. I realize some assembly would be required,
> but I also realize that some of the parts are available from alternate
> sources for lower prices (and probably lower quality as well). I would
> guess a junk yard should be willing to sell you a door for under $1200.
> Now I suppose stealing 4 doors off a Camry might net a thief a few
> thousand dollars. However, if you have the time to steal four doors, why
> not just take the whole car? I am confident it would be faster to load the
> car on a rollback than removing four doors from a parked car (and less
> obvious).
>
> Any insurance company that is paying $5200 per Toyota door deserves to go
> out of business.
>
> Ed
>[/color]

I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that lost
four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one sees so
many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not badly
damaged. ;)

mike hunt


"Bassplayer12" <perettij@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:ld1sf.145763$Ph4.4447231@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...[color=blue][color=green]
>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them
>> to unscrupulous body shops. According to the insurance claims, the cost
>> of replacing a Camry door is $5,200 per door. Some owners have had all
>> four doors taken while others are loosing just the rear doors to the
>> thieves. The Highlander doors are even more expensive.[/color]
>
> $5,200 per door? Times 4 = $20,800. Now you know wutz the rest of yer
> car's worth. LOL
>[/color]

Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels and
rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's side door
with the power switches could easily approach and exceed $2000. I carry
comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken. Just a cost of
living in a city.

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:0sCcnVhCnZWSEy3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high priced
> part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that thieves are
> stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them to[/color]

"Alex" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:NVesf.47695$6e1.33288@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels
> and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's side
> door with the power switches could easily approach and exceed $2000. I
> carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken. Just a
> cost of living in a city.[/color]

Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.
[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:0sCcnVhCnZWSEy3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling them
>> to[/color]
>
>[/color]

High deductibles on collision coverage can indeed save one a lot of money in
premiums but you might want to check with your insurance agent. I believe
you will be surprised to find how small the difference is in premium is
between $500 deductible comprehensive and $50, or even zero deductible. In
my case it is only $27, per vehicle, more a year for zero deductible

mike hunt


"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qvhsf.11976$6K2.4063@edtnps90...[color=blue]
>
> "Alex" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:NVesf.47695$6e1.33288@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...[color=green]
>> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels
>> and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's
>> side door with the power switches could easily approach and exceed $2000.
>> I carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken. Just a
>> cost of living in a city.[/color]
>
> Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
> deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:0sCcnVhCnZWSEy3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling
>>> them to[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:e-mdnUKE0ZKc9yzeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> The figure given was what the insurance agent said they paid the body shop
> as the cost of replacing the rear door on the vehicle. If the Tribune
> Newspapers report was faulty, tell them, or at least call the insurance
> company and tell them YOU will do it for less LOL
>
> mike hunt[/color]

I posted here because you are the one reporting it to this group and you did
not provide a reference for the figure. Didn't you think it sounded
unbelievable? I can believe it cost $5200 for a body shop to replace a rear
door but I am sure that figure also included other work (painting, fixing
related damage, etc). Replacing one door might have cost $5200, but I doubt
that replacing four doors would have cost $5200 each ($20,800). The actual
cost of the "door part" was probably only a fraction of the total $5200.

Ed

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:weidnTfx9NYd9izeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
>I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that lost
>four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one sees
>so many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not badly
>damaged. ;)
>
> mike hunt[/color]

it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry

I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
airbags blown, and windshield wiped out

totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage

True, anytime any vehicles is damage up to the retail value the insurance
company can total the car. In a case like that one can always choose to
accept a check for the value, less the salvage and fix their car themselves.
Contrary to what many believe there is no law requiring an individual owner
to repair their car to its original condition or to repair it at all for
that matter ;)


mike hunt


"markansas859" <betrtimes@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:96740$43b1ff8a$471d5a41$29682@ALLTEL.NET...[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:weidnTfx9NYd9izeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>>I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that
>>lost four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one
>>sees so many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not
>>badly damaged. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt[/color]
>
> it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry
>
> I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
> rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
> airbags blown, and windshield wiped out
>
> totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage
>
>[/color]

The fact is one can not buy a complete door. You need to buy the door, the
hinges, the latch, the locks, the window mechanism, the glass, the interior
panel and arm rest as well as all of the related switches and/or cranks and
the other doodads one finds on or in a door plus the cost of assembling and
mounting of all that stuff, but I guess one can always choose to leave the
doors unpainted or do without the interior panel to same $1,000 or so. LOL

mike hunt


"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mudspring.com> wrote in message
news:gkmsf.653922$x96.390052@attbi_s72...[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:e-mdnUKE0ZKc9yzeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> The figure given was what the insurance agent said they paid the body
>> shop as the cost of replacing the rear door on the vehicle. If the
>> Tribune Newspapers report was faulty, tell them, or at least call the
>> insurance company and tell them YOU will do it for less LOL
>>
>> mike hunt[/color]
>
> I posted here because you are the one reporting it to this group and you
> did not provide a reference for the figure. Didn't you think it sounded
> unbelievable? I can believe it cost $5200 for a body shop to replace a
> rear door but I am sure that figure also included other work (painting,
> fixing related damage, etc). Replacing one door might have cost $5200, but
> I doubt that replacing four doors would have cost $5200 each ($20,800).
> The actual cost of the "door part" was probably only a fraction of the
> total $5200.
>
> Ed
>[/color]

OUT HERE ... when the damage exceeds approx 2/3rds of the car's current
market value ... the vehicle is totaled out. That's why it's so easy to
total out a 3-4 year old vehicle largely do to air bag deployment.

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:i4OcnWHSFsNXWy_eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> True, anytime any vehicles is damage up to the retail value the insurance
> company can total the car. In a case like that one can always choose to
> accept a check for the value, less the salvage and fix their car
> themselves. Contrary to what many believe there is no law requiring an
> individual owner to repair their car to its original condition or to
> repair it at all for that matter ;)
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "markansas859" <betrtimes@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:96740$43b1ff8a$471d5a41$29682@ALLTEL.NET...[color=green]
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:weidnTfx9NYd9izeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=darkred]
>>>I suppose the insurance company would total a four year old Camry that
>>>lost four doors. Again like air bags the cost of replacement is why one
>>>sees so many late model cars in salvage yards that look like they are not
>>>badly damaged. ;)
>>>
>>> mike hunt[/color]
>>
>> it don't have to be a 4 year old Camry
>>
>> I saw a new 1997 Ford Escort at the Ford dealer in Manhattan, KS (ford
>> rent-a-car) that had 600 miles on it, minimal damage to the bumper, both
>> airbags blown, and windshield wiped out
>>
>> totalled due to dashboard/airbag/windshield damage
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Who is your insurance company? With State Farm last chance I check it was
at least $100 difference.


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:xwydnc6z9o-5NCzeUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> High deductibles on collision coverage can indeed save one a lot of money
> in premiums but you might want to check with your insurance agent. I
> believe you will be surprised to find how small the difference is in
> premium is between $500 deductible comprehensive and $50, or even zero
> deductible. In my case it is only $27, per vehicle, more a year for zero
> deductible
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qvhsf.11976$6K2.4063@edtnps90...[color=green]
>>
>> "Alex" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:NVesf.47695$6e1.33288@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Any part you can remove in a minute is at risk. How about tires, wheels
>>> and rear tail lights? There's $2000 for the average car. A driver's
>>> side door with the power switches could easily approach and exceed
>>> $2000. I carry comprehensive on a 10 year old car. I don't feel taken.
>>> Just a cost of living in a city.[/color]
>>
>> Well, I carry a $1000 deductible on the collision insurance and a $500
>> deductible on the comprehensive--this keeps premiums relatively low.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0sCcnVhCnZWSEy3eUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> Like air bags a few years ago, thieves have discovered another high
>>>> priced part that is easy to steal and resell. NYC police report that
>>>> thieves are stealing doors of off Camrys and Highlanders and selling
>>>> them to
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

[slimon]

LoL what makes the doors worth so much?