timing belt replacement

My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called around
to get prices for a timing belt replacement.

Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
Pep Boys= $550
Firestone= around $700
Tread Quarters= $450

Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do have
the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much lower than
the other service stations. I realize they have the proper tools for
the job but even their normal price is significantly lower. Any
thoughts?

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0ebhr6r17uku1001@news.east.cox.net...[color=blue]
> My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called around
> to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
>
> Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> Pep Boys= $550
> Firestone= around $700
> Tread Quarters= $450
>
> Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do have
> the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much lower than
> the other service stations. I realize they have the proper tools for
> the job but even their normal price is significantly lower. Any
> thoughts?[/color]

$248 - I believe that's the V6 coupon price here, too. $199 for I4s.

Is it possible that Toyota subsidizes timing belt replacement?

DH wrote:[color=blue]
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0ebhr6r17uku1001@news.east.cox.net...[color=green]
> > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called around
> > to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> >
> > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > Pep Boys= $550
> > Firestone= around $700
> > Tread Quarters= $450
> >
> > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do have
> > the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much lower than
> > the other service stations. I realize they have the proper tools for
> > the job but even their normal price is significantly lower. Any
> > thoughts?[/color]
>
> $248 - I believe that's the V6 coupon price here, too. $199 for I4s.[/color]

Here's a thought... stay away from chain garages. The top deal sounds
the best. I would suggest seeing when the earliest is that each place
could schedule you (this is an unscientific gauge of how busy they
are), but that doesn't apply so well with chain facilities.

Firestone is notorious for being overpriced. No surprise! Sounds like
the dealer wins the bidding war.

> My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called around[color=blue]
> to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
>
> Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> Pep Boys= $550
> Firestone= around $700
> Tread Quarters= $450
>
> Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do have
> the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much lower than
> the other service stations. I realize they have the proper tools for
> the job but even their normal price is significantly lower. Any
> thoughts?[/color]

Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump, idler pulley and
oil seals.

ZR wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called around
> > to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> >
> > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > Pep Boys= $550
> > Firestone= around $700
> > Tread Quarters= $450
> >
> > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do have
> > the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much lower than
> > the other service stations. I realize they have the proper tools for
> > the job but even their normal price is significantly lower. Any
> > thoughts?[/color]
>
> Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump, idler pulley and
> oil seals.[/color]

Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the above
included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop would not be so
trifling and negligent.

Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,1:24:41 AM, wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> ZR wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called
> > > around to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> > >
> > > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > > Pep Boys= $550
> > > Firestone= around $700
> > > Tread Quarters= $450
> > >
> > > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do
> > > have the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much
> > > lower than the other service stations. I realize they have the
> > > proper tools for the job but even their normal price is
> > > significantly lower. Any thoughts?[/color]
> >
> > Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump, idler
> > pulley and oil seals.[/color]
>
> Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the above
> included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop would not be
> so trifling and negligent.[/color]

The previous times I have had the timing belts replaced on my Camrys
they have never replaced the water pump. In each instance they
inspected it and said it was fine. My 94 had 168K when sold and my 97
has 118K. I'm hoping that will be the case with the Sienna also of
course.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,1:24:41 AM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > ZR wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called
> > > > around to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> > > >
> > > > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > > > Pep Boys= $550
> > > > Firestone= around $700
> > > > Tread Quarters= $450
> > > >
> > > > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do
> > > > have the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much
> > > > lower than the other service stations. I realize they have the
> > > > proper tools for the job but even their normal price is
> > > > significantly lower. Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump, idler
> > > pulley and oil seals.[/color]
> >
> > Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the above
> > included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop would not be
> > so trifling and negligent.[/color]
>
> The previous times I have had the timing belts replaced on my Camrys
> they have never replaced the water pump. In each instance they
> inspected it and said it was fine. My 94 had 168K when sold and my 97
> has 118K. I'm hoping that will be the case with the Sienna also of
> course.[/color]

As I've mentioned on here a few times by now, my owner's manual (95
Corolla) is pretty clear in stating that under normal usage the timing
belt should hold up fine (without replacement).

I've discovered another reason to change it though -- because over time
the waterpump or related parts may need to be changed. In this case,
since the mechanic will have to go that far anyway, I'll have him
replace the timing belt as well.


Ahhh vacation is wonderful -- back to holding the couch down

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
<snip>[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump, idler pulley
>> and
>> oil seals.[/color]
>
> Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the above
> included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop would not be so
> trifling and negligent.
>[/color]
I've had four timing belts replaced in two Camrys. All of the quotes were
for the timing belt only. All suggested that the water pump be replaced too.
jor

Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,8:37:07 AM, wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,1:24:41 AM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > ZR wrote:
> > > > > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called
> > > > > around to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > > > > Pep Boys= $550
> > > > > Firestone= around $700
> > > > > Tread Quarters= $450
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I
> > > > > do have the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that
> > > > > much lower than the other service stations. I realize they
> > > > > have the proper tools for the job but even their normal price
> > > > > is significantly lower. Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump,
> > > > idler pulley and oil seals.
> > >
> > > Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the above
> > > included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop would not
> > > be so trifling and negligent.[/color]
> >
> > The previous times I have had the timing belts replaced on my Camrys
> > they have never replaced the water pump. In each instance they
> > inspected it and said it was fine. My 94 had 168K when sold and my
> > 97 has 118K. I'm hoping that will be the case with the Sienna also
> > of course.[/color]
>
> As I've mentioned on here a few times by now, my owner's manual (95
> Corolla) is pretty clear in stating that under normal usage the timing
> belt should hold up fine (without replacement).
>
> I've discovered another reason to change it though -- because over
> time the waterpump or related parts may need to be changed. In this
> case, since the mechanic will have to go that far anyway, I'll have
> him replace the timing belt as well.
>
>
> Ahhh vacation is wonderful -- back to holding the couch down[/color]

Richard,
You seem to be saying that the timing belt does not need replacement
and the water pump does. I know you're smarter than that...

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,8:37:07 AM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,1:24:41 AM, wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ZR wrote:
> > > > > > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called
> > > > > > around to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > > > > > Pep Boys= $550
> > > > > > Firestone= around $700
> > > > > > Tread Quarters= $450
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I
> > > > > > do have the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that
> > > > > > much lower than the other service stations. I realize they
> > > > > > have the proper tools for the job but even their normal price
> > > > > > is significantly lower. Any thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump,
> > > > > idler pulley and oil seals.
> > > >
> > > > Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the above
> > > > included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop would not
> > > > be so trifling and negligent.
> > >
> > > The previous times I have had the timing belts replaced on my Camrys
> > > they have never replaced the water pump. In each instance they
> > > inspected it and said it was fine. My 94 had 168K when sold and my
> > > 97 has 118K. I'm hoping that will be the case with the Sienna also
> > > of course.[/color]
> >
> > As I've mentioned on here a few times by now, my owner's manual (95
> > Corolla) is pretty clear in stating that under normal usage the timing
> > belt should hold up fine (without replacement).
> >
> > I've discovered another reason to change it though -- because over
> > time the waterpump or related parts may need to be changed. In this
> > case, since the mechanic will have to go that far anyway, I'll have
> > him replace the timing belt as well.
> >
> >
> > Ahhh vacation is wonderful -- back to holding the couch down[/color]
>
> Richard,
> You seem to be saying that the timing belt does not need replacement
> and the water pump does. I know you're smarter than that...[/color]

I'm not saying anything. My owner's manual says that the timing belt
does not need replacement.

Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,11:40:11 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,8:37:07 AM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,1:24:41 AM, wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ZR wrote:
> > > > > > > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I
> > > > > > > called around to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > > > > > > Pep Boys= $550
> > > > > > > Firestone= around $700
> > > > > > > Tread Quarters= $450
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive
> > > > > > > and I do have the coupon. However I find it odd that
> > > > > > > they are that much lower than the other service stations.
> > > > > > > I realize they have the proper tools for the job but even
> > > > > > > their normal price is significantly lower. Any thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump,
> > > > > > idler pulley and oil seals.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the
> > > > > above included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop
> > > > > would not be so trifling and negligent.
> > > >
> > > > The previous times I have had the timing belts replaced on my
> > > > Camrys they have never replaced the water pump. In each
> > > > instance they inspected it and said it was fine. My 94 had
> > > > 168K when sold and my 97 has 118K. I'm hoping that will be the
> > > > case with the Sienna also of course.
> > >
> > > As I've mentioned on here a few times by now, my owner's manual
> > > (95 Corolla) is pretty clear in stating that under normal usage
> > > the timing belt should hold up fine (without replacement).
> > >
> > > I've discovered another reason to change it though -- because over
> > > time the waterpump or related parts may need to be changed. In
> > > this case, since the mechanic will have to go that far anyway,
> > > I'll have him replace the timing belt as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ahhh vacation is wonderful -- back to holding the couch down[/color]
> >
> > Richard,
> > You seem to be saying that the timing belt does not need replacement
> > and the water pump does. I know you're smarter than that...[/color]
>
> I'm not saying anything. My owner's manual says that the timing belt
> does not need replacement.[/color]

Timing belt or timing chain? What is the engine model?

badgolferman, 12/27/2005, 4:54:39 PM,
<xn0ebhr6r17uku1001@news.east.cox.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I called around
> to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
>
> Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> Pep Boys= $550
> Firestone= around $700
> Tread Quarters= $450
>
> Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive and I do have
> the coupon. However I find it odd that they are that much lower than
> the other service stations. I realize they have the proper tools for
> the job but even their normal price is significantly lower. Any
> thoughts?[/color]

For those who are following this thread here is the final count.
Dealer replaced timing belt for total cost of $276 which included
competitor's coupon. Water pump and tensioner were not replaced
because they were in fine shape. I questioned those two items before
and after job was done and they assured me they would/were inspected.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,11:40:11 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,8:37:07 AM, wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > Learning Richard, 12/28/2005,1:24:41 AM, wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ZR wrote:
> > > > > > > > My 2000 Sienna just went over 90K miles on our trip. I
> > > > > > > > called around to get prices for a timing belt replacement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dealer= $355 or $248 with coupon
> > > > > > > > Pep Boys= $550
> > > > > > > > Firestone= around $700
> > > > > > > > Tread Quarters= $450
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Obviously I'm pleased the dealer is much less expensive
> > > > > > > > and I do have the coupon. However I find it odd that
> > > > > > > > they are that much lower than the other service stations.
> > > > > > > > I realize they have the proper tools for the job but even
> > > > > > > > their normal price is significantly lower. Any thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some of the more expensive quotes might include water pump,
> > > > > > > idler pulley and oil seals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who would quote a timing belt replacement without all of the
> > > > > > above included? Dare say, certainly a dealership repair shop
> > > > > > would not be so trifling and negligent.
> > > > >
> > > > > The previous times I have had the timing belts replaced on my
> > > > > Camrys they have never replaced the water pump. In each
> > > > > instance they inspected it and said it was fine. My 94 had
> > > > > 168K when sold and my 97 has 118K. I'm hoping that will be the
> > > > > case with the Sienna also of course.
> > > >
> > > > As I've mentioned on here a few times by now, my owner's manual
> > > > (95 Corolla) is pretty clear in stating that under normal usage
> > > > the timing belt should hold up fine (without replacement).
> > > >
> > > > I've discovered another reason to change it though -- because over
> > > > time the waterpump or related parts may need to be changed. In
> > > > this case, since the mechanic will have to go that far anyway,
> > > > I'll have him replace the timing belt as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ahhh vacation is wonderful -- back to holding the couch down
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > > You seem to be saying that the timing belt does not need replacement
> > > and the water pump does. I know you're smarter than that...[/color]
> >
> > I'm not saying anything. My owner's manual says that the timing belt
> > does not need replacement.[/color]
>
> Timing belt or timing chain? What is the engine model?[/color]

95 base model, 1.6l, 5 speed, 107k miles, fresh oil regularly, new
tires, brakes, windshield, and a missing hubcap (plus one hubcap that
has, mysteriously, 5 fake lugnuts instead of 4).

As usual Richard didn't answer the question. ??...

When I had my 4cyl. camry done recently the SA said you really can go
till it breaks and then get it done. He said ALL totyota engines are the
kind (non-interference?) where the timing belt breaking is not an issue
, that is as long as you have AAA.

Not what I've read on here though??
Who is right?
CP

.... unless of course it breaks in an unsafe or dangerous place. I had a
water pump fail while climbing a tall bridge over the Baltimore Harbor, Key
bridge on I-895. At least it would run. A timing belt break will strand you.

Most of the new Yota engines are interference. My new Sienna with the 3.3 l
is interference. The water pump is only an extra $90.
"Charles Pisano" <pisanochas@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27481-43C31552-603@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net...[color=blue]
> As usual Richard didn't answer the question. ??...
>
> When I had my 4cyl. camry done recently the SA said you really can go
> till it breaks and then get it done. He said ALL totyota engines are the
> kind (non-interference?) where the timing belt breaking is not an issue
> , that is as long as you have AAA.
>
> Not what I've read on here though??
> Who is right?
> CP
>[/color]