2003 Echo - Clock installation quest.

Hi,
I am installing a digital in a 2003 echo. The problem is that I can't
locate the plug that goes into the back of the clock. I've tried
looking and feeling through all of the under dash harnesses I could get
to, but was still unable to find it. I called the dealer and they said
there is a plug, but I didn't ask the location.

Can anyone tell me where it [the plug] is?


Thanks,
Chris

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:35:24 -0800, dethrai wrote:
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> Hi,
> I am installing a digital in a 2003 echo. The problem is that I can't
> locate the plug that goes into the back of the clock. I've tried
> looking and feeling through all of the under dash harnesses I could get
> to, but was still unable to find it. I called the dealer and they said
> there is a plug, but I didn't ask the location.
>
> Can anyone tell me where it [the plug] is?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chris[/color]

Did the car have a clock? If not, then you have to pull the block-out
where the clock would have been installed, and the connector will be right
behind it.

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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.28.01.25.28.645137@ae86.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:35:24 -0800, dethrai wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hi,
>> I am installing a digital in a 2003 echo. The problem is that I can't
>> locate the plug that goes into the back of the clock. I've tried
>> looking and feeling through all of the under dash harnesses I could get
>> to, but was still unable to find it. I called the dealer and they said
>> there is a plug, but I didn't ask the location.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me where it [the plug] is?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris[/color]
>
> Did the car have a clock? If not, then you have to pull the block-out
> where the clock would have been installed, and the connector will be right
> behind it.
>[/color]

I thought all Echoes had digital clocks. Weird.

Natalie

Nope, bought it new and it didn't have the clock installed.

I talked to someone else who said that the plug is taped to the
harness, I just can't find where.

Thanks,
Chris

On 27 Dec 2005 18:32:27 -0800, "dethrai" <cnholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Nope, bought it new and it didn't have the clock installed.
>
> I talked to someone else who said that the plug is taped to the
>harness, I just can't find where.[/color]

Look (and feel) way back behind where the clock is, and find that
big black snake wrapped in black tape and corrugated loom tubing - the
Main Dashboard Wiring Harness is going to be somewhere north of 1" in
diameter, I've seen some over two inches. When you get into the EFI
wiring to the engine, you need a LOT of wires.

Then look for a smaller wrapped wire branching out of the big bundle
that's coiled up with a little plastic 5 to 8 wire multi-pin connector
attached. If the car was offered with a clock as a factory option,
it's back there somewhere. Check where the radio harness comes out,
it might branch from the same point. Might be several inches off to
one side, or hiding around the back side of the main harness.

The clock needs at least 5 wires. +12V constant, +12V switched
accessory, chassis ground, and the two dashboard illumination + and -
connections for dimming the display at night.

--<< Bruce >>--

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You mean to say you know Toyota actually makes some junkers on occasion just
like every other manufacture? I'm shocked

mike hunt



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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.01.28.01.25.28.645137@ae86.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:35:24 -0800, dethrai wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hi,
>>> I am installing a digital in a 2003 echo. The problem is that I can't
>>> locate the plug that goes into the back of the clock. I've tried
>>> looking and feeling through all of the under dash harnesses I could get
>>> to, but was still unable to find it. I called the dealer and they said
>>> there is a plug, but I didn't ask the location.
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me where it [the plug] is?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris[/color]
>>
>> Did the car have a clock? If not, then you have to pull the block-out
>> where the clock would have been installed, and the connector will be
>> right
>> behind it.
>>[/color]
>
> I thought all Echoes had digital clocks. Weird.
>
> Natalie
>
>
>
>
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>
>[/color]

Nobody is shocked when FORD makes a junker. LOL


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> You mean to say you know Toyota actually makes some junkers on occasion
> just like every other manufacture? I'm shocked
>
> mike hunt
>
>
>
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dosatr.1gk.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.01.28.01.25.28.645137@ae86.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:35:24 -0800, dethrai wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am installing a digital in a 2003 echo. The problem is that I can't
>>>> locate the plug that goes into the back of the clock. I've tried
>>>> looking and feeling through all of the under dash harnesses I could get
>>>> to, but was still unable to find it. I called the dealer and they said
>>>> there is a plug, but I didn't ask the location.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me where it [the plug] is?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Did the car have a clock? If not, then you have to pull the block-out
>>> where the clock would have been installed, and the connector will be
>>> right
>>> behind it.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I thought all Echoes had digital clocks. Weird.
>>
>> Natalie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Update.. the "junker" now has a functional clock. Just FYI, I went to
the dealer and the shop foreman searched for the plug to no avail. He
ended up calling Toyota and found out there are two different wiring
harness one with, and one without the plug. He said it was the first
one he had seen, and it is an Echo that wasn't offered with the clock
option. So I guess I have an "econo" version of the Echo, or maybe
there's one lower that has milk crates for seats....hehe.

Overall though, it has been a trouble free car and probably will be for
a long time.

Anyways, i just got a plug from the wrecking yard and tapped into the
electrical from the stereo harness. All is good.

Thanks again,
Chris

"dethrai" <cnholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Nope, bought it new and it didn't have the clock installed.
>
> I talked to someone else who said that the plug is taped to the
>harness, I just can't find where.
>
>Thanks,
>Chris[/color]

Jesus...read what Hachi told you...look at the dash "where the
clock would have been installed"...remove the 'blanking plate',
find the clock plug behind it...<sigh>
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:45:48 -0800, dethrai wrote:
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> Update.. the "junker" now has a functional clock. Just FYI, I went to
> the dealer and the shop foreman searched for the plug to no avail. He
> ended up calling Toyota and found out there are two different wiring
> harness one with, and one without the plug. He said it was the first
> one he had seen, and it is an Echo that wasn't offered with the clock
> option. So I guess I have an "econo" version of the Echo, or maybe
> there's one lower that has milk crates for seats....hehe.
>
> Overall though, it has been a trouble free car and probably will be for
> a long time.
>
> Anyways, i just got a plug from the wrecking yard and tapped into the
> electrical from the stereo harness. All is good.
>
> Thanks again,
> Chris[/color]

1. Good for you! That's what I would have done had I not found the harness!

2. It DIDN'T have the clock wiring???!!! Interesting. Back in the day, if
you bought a Toyota without a clock, that's what you got: a Toyota without
a clock! If you went to a "parts recycler", then all you had to do was
what I suggested...remve the plat, attach the harness that was there, and
install the clock! Just that simple. It seemed that is was easier to build
1 harness and leave out the actuall accessory, than to make separate
harnesses.

I did notice, on my '95 Tercel, that the knockout was not there for the
clutch. Previously on Toys, all the firewalls had the knockout for the
clutch master cylinder on the firewall with a rubber plug where it would
have been. Not so on my Tercel. There was no place to install a clutch.

Interesting...

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oh and lol @ Gord Beaman. you sound pretty put out man, remove your
foot slowly as to not scrape your toes on your teeth.

"dethrai" <cnholmes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> oh and lol @ Gord Beaman. you sound pretty put out man, remove your
> foot slowly as to not scrape your toes on your teeth.
>[/color]

Welcome "dethrai". Gord mounts his Huffy Bike every time he can.

"LOL -@- Gord"

I luv it!

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