Extended warranty?

"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
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>>>>I just bought an 05 Rav.
>>>> An extended warranty is $1400. Yeh, I know they are big money makers
>>>> for the dealer and I have never bought one before; but $1400 doesn't
>>>> seem so bad. One major repair in year 5 will justify it.
>>>> Whatcha think?
>>>> Are these things negotiable? Once when I turned an extended warranty
>>>> down the guy gradually came down to half. This guy didn't do anything.
>>> Based on this discussion, I did some reading and called Toyota.
>>> 1) The warranty is the same price anytime before the new car warranty
>>> expires. So there is no reason to buy it now, when I can buy it 35,000
>>> miles from now; might as well hold onto my money. That is correct,
>>> isn't it?
>>> 2) The suggested retail on Toyota's website for the 6/75 is $875 and my
>>> dealer wants $1,400! Argh. I haven't managed to reach any of the
>>> cheaper people but according to the other threads, they are like $400.
>>> I am reading this right, aren't I?
>>>
>>> Yeh I know Toyotas are great and I will never need $400 worth of
>>> repairs, but I just had $1,000 on my 5 year old Dodge, and $400 sounds
>>> like cheap insurance.
>>>
>>> Thanks.[/color]
>>
>> DODGES? What the FUCK to do you expect? Don't discuss Crap products in
>> the same breath as Toyota.
>>[/color]
>
> I am a Toyota guy, but I love Dodge Challengers and Chargers (original
> ones) - plus, as soon as the new Challenger comes out, I am buying it.
> Things have changed quite a bit at Chryco. I am really beginning to think
> Toyota is slipping. My 2005 Sienna has been back to the dealer 4 times now
> for fairly major things - my neighbors Dodge Caravan (who bought it same
> week as I got the Sienna) put twice as many miles on it as I did and has
> not taken it back once.
>
> I think all major manufacturers are finally getting it.
>[/color]

Well, lessee....I bought a 74 Dodge Challenger Rallye in Feb. 74. It barely
lasted until 1985...continual problems with the carburetor. Look was ahead
of its time, though.
318 V8 kicked butt, as did the Torqueflite transmission which one could
shift manually.

"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Ted" <Ted@ixmil.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>I just bought an 05 Rav.
>>>>> An extended warranty is $1400. Yeh, I know they are big money makers
>>>>> for the dealer and I have never bought one before; but $1400 doesn't
>>>>> seem so bad. One major repair in year 5 will justify it.
>>>>> Whatcha think?
>>>>> Are these things negotiable? Once when I turned an extended warranty
>>>>> down the guy gradually came down to half. This guy didn't do
>>>>> anything.
>>>> Based on this discussion, I did some reading and called Toyota.
>>>> 1) The warranty is the same price anytime before the new car warranty
>>>> expires. So there is no reason to buy it now, when I can buy it 35,000
>>>> miles from now; might as well hold onto my money. That is correct,
>>>> isn't it?
>>>> 2) The suggested retail on Toyota's website for the 6/75 is $875 and my
>>>> dealer wants $1,400! Argh. I haven't managed to reach any of the
>>>> cheaper people but according to the other threads, they are like $400.
>>>> I am reading this right, aren't I?
>>>>
>>>> Yeh I know Toyotas are great and I will never need $400 worth of
>>>> repairs, but I just had $1,000 on my 5 year old Dodge, and $400 sounds
>>>> like cheap insurance.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> DODGES? What the FUCK to do you expect? Don't discuss Crap products in
>>> the same breath as Toyota.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I am a Toyota guy, but I love Dodge Challengers and Chargers (original
>> ones) - plus, as soon as the new Challenger comes out, I am buying it.
>> Things have changed quite a bit at Chryco. I am really beginning to think
>> Toyota is slipping. My 2005 Sienna has been back to the dealer 4 times
>> now for fairly major things - my neighbors Dodge Caravan (who bought it
>> same week as I got the Sienna) put twice as many miles on it as I did and
>> has not taken it back once.
>>
>> I think all major manufacturers are finally getting it.
>>[/color]
>
> Well, lessee....I bought a 74 Dodge Challenger Rallye in Feb. 74. It
> barely lasted until 1985...continual problems with the carburetor. Look
> was ahead of its time, though.
> 318 V8 kicked butt, as did the Torqueflite transmission which one could
> shift manually.
>[/color]

74 was suffering from the new emissions crap anyway - yeah those were bad.
Hey I am just saying that Chrysler is trying hard to turn itself around. So
I take it the Challenger is gone? Another neighbor has a purple 1970 model -
stock but without a hemi... its a beauty... We do the weekend shows in
Crystal Lake, Il...

Dan J.S. wrote:
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> i owned a first year durango before trading it in on a 2003 4runner (it
> was a 1998 model) - no problems with it, but around 55k i did notice
> the tranny to slip - so yes, Dodge quality is not as good, but I
> believe things are getting better. The new 300c has a mercedes tranny -
> and the Hemis are strong reliable engines.[/color]

I don't know how durable Mercedes trannies are, especially compared to the
rest of the car. And since the Hemi has only been around for a few years (I
think), it's long term durability is uncertain.

"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Ted" <Ted@ixmil.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>I just bought an 05 Rav.
>>>>>> An extended warranty is $1400. Yeh, I know they are big money makers
>>>>>> for the dealer and I have never bought one before; but $1400 doesn't
>>>>>> seem so bad. One major repair in year 5 will justify it.
>>>>>> Whatcha think?
>>>>>> Are these things negotiable? Once when I turned an extended warranty
>>>>>> down the guy gradually came down to half. This guy didn't do
>>>>>> anything.
>>>>> Based on this discussion, I did some reading and called Toyota.
>>>>> 1) The warranty is the same price anytime before the new car warranty
>>>>> expires. So there is no reason to buy it now, when I can buy it
>>>>> 35,000 miles from now; might as well hold onto my money. That is
>>>>> correct, isn't it?
>>>>> 2) The suggested retail on Toyota's website for the 6/75 is $875 and
>>>>> my dealer wants $1,400! Argh. I haven't managed to reach any of the
>>>>> cheaper people but according to the other threads, they are like $400.
>>>>> I am reading this right, aren't I?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeh I know Toyotas are great and I will never need $400 worth of
>>>>> repairs, but I just had $1,000 on my 5 year old Dodge, and $400 sounds
>>>>> like cheap insurance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> DODGES? What the FUCK to do you expect? Don't discuss Crap products in
>>>> the same breath as Toyota.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am a Toyota guy, but I love Dodge Challengers and Chargers (original
>>> ones) - plus, as soon as the new Challenger comes out, I am buying it.
>>> Things have changed quite a bit at Chryco. I am really beginning to
>>> think Toyota is slipping. My 2005 Sienna has been back to the dealer 4
>>> times now for fairly major things - my neighbors Dodge Caravan (who
>>> bought it same week as I got the Sienna) put twice as many miles on it
>>> as I did and has not taken it back once.
>>>
>>> I think all major manufacturers are finally getting it.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Well, lessee....I bought a 74 Dodge Challenger Rallye in Feb. 74. It
>> barely lasted until 1985...continual problems with the carburetor. Look
>> was ahead of its time, though.
>> 318 V8 kicked butt, as did the Torqueflite transmission which one could
>> shift manually.
>>[/color]
>
> 74 was suffering from the new emissions crap anyway - yeah those were bad.
> Hey I am just saying that Chrysler is trying hard to turn itself around.
> So I take it the Challenger is gone? Another neighbor has a purple 1970
> model - stock but without a hemi... its a beauty... We do the weekend
> shows in Crystal Lake, Il...[/color]

Yeh, the Challenger is gone..no place to store it back then. Ah, the single
days....
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>
>[/color]

If you buy the warranty and decide to sell the car privately while it is
still in force you will probably get your money out of it.



"Ted" <Ted@ixmil.com> wrote in message
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> "Ted" <Ted@ixmil.com> wrote in message
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>>I just bought an 05 Rav.
>> An extended warranty is $1400. Yeh, I know they are big money makers for
>> the dealer and I have never bought one before; but $1400 doesn't seem so
>> bad. One major repair in year 5 will justify it.
>> Whatcha think?
>> Are these things negotiable? Once when I turned an extended warranty
>> down the guy gradually came down to half. This guy didn't do anything.[/color]
> Based on this discussion, I did some reading and called Toyota.
> 1) The warranty is the same price anytime before the new car warranty
> expires. So there is no reason to buy it now, when I can buy it 35,000
> miles from now; might as well hold onto my money. That is correct, isn't
> it?
> 2) The suggested retail on Toyota's website for the 6/75 is $875 and my
> dealer wants $1,400! Argh. I haven't managed to reach any of the cheaper
> people but according to the other threads, they are like $400. I am
> reading this right, aren't I?
>
> Yeh I know Toyotas are great and I will never need $400 worth of repairs,
> but I just had $1,000 on my 5 year old Dodge, and $400 sounds like cheap
> insurance.
>
> Thanks.
>[/color]

I had a 300M 1999 and a 2001 Avalon. The 300M was much better put together
though there were major problems with the power windows. The Avalon was a
rattle box with a worthless autoclimate control. We hated driving it and in
5 years only put 22000 miles on it. Overall the 300M was the much better
car.

We traded the Avalon for a Honda minivan and we are giving the 300M to my
in-laws. I'm sure I could have sold the Avalon privately pretty easily but
I did not want to personally stick anyone in that car.


"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Dan J.S. wrote:
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>> Things have changed quite a bit at Chryco. I am really beginning to
>> think Toyota is slipping. My 2005 Sienna has been back to the dealer 4
>> times now for fairly major things - my neighbors Dodge Caravan (who
>> bought it same week as I got the Sienna) put twice as many miles on it
>> as I did and has not taken it back once.
>>[/color]
> What major things has your Sienna had? I assume the electronic throttle
> lag
> is one of them?
>
> Your friend has been lucky with his Caravan. Most people I know that have
> owned newer Crapslers (Caravan, Sebring, Neon, and even a Magnum) have had
> lots of problems with them from the moment they bought them new.
>
>[color=green]
>> I think all major manufacturers are finally getting it.[/color]
>
> I don't fully agree. Perhaps the differences in reliability over the
> first
> 3 or so years are minimal. But after 5 or more years, that is where
> Toyota
> and Honda continue to come out near the top.[/color]

The Hemi is exceeding everyone's expectations. It is relatively simple and
does everything right with acceptable gas mileage and good emissions.


"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Dan J.S. wrote:
>[color=green]
>> i owned a first year durango before trading it in on a 2003 4runner (it
>> was a 1998 model) - no problems with it, but around 55k i did notice
>> the tranny to slip - so yes, Dodge quality is not as good, but I
>> believe things are getting better. The new 300c has a mercedes tranny -
>> and the Hemis are strong reliable engines.[/color]
>
> I don't know how durable Mercedes trannies are, especially compared to the
> rest of the car. And since the Hemi has only been around for a few years
> (I
> think), it's long term durability is uncertain.[/color]

So what. I had 2 1983 4WD Tercel wagons. If the carburators weren't kept
spotless they would not start in cold weather even if garaged. Is that
really relevant to today's cars?


"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Ted" <Ted@ixmil.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Ted" <Ted@ixmil.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fIWwf.400$wk5.117@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>I just bought an 05 Rav.
>>>>> An extended warranty is $1400. Yeh, I know they are big money makers
>>>>> for the dealer and I have never bought one before; but $1400 doesn't
>>>>> seem so bad. One major repair in year 5 will justify it.
>>>>> Whatcha think?
>>>>> Are these things negotiable? Once when I turned an extended warranty
>>>>> down the guy gradually came down to half. This guy didn't do
>>>>> anything.
>>>> Based on this discussion, I did some reading and called Toyota.
>>>> 1) The warranty is the same price anytime before the new car warranty
>>>> expires. So there is no reason to buy it now, when I can buy it 35,000
>>>> miles from now; might as well hold onto my money. That is correct,
>>>> isn't it?
>>>> 2) The suggested retail on Toyota's website for the 6/75 is $875 and my
>>>> dealer wants $1,400! Argh. I haven't managed to reach any of the
>>>> cheaper people but according to the other threads, they are like $400.
>>>> I am reading this right, aren't I?
>>>>
>>>> Yeh I know Toyotas are great and I will never need $400 worth of
>>>> repairs, but I just had $1,000 on my 5 year old Dodge, and $400 sounds
>>>> like cheap insurance.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> DODGES? What the FUCK to do you expect? Don't discuss Crap products in
>>> the same breath as Toyota.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I am a Toyota guy, but I love Dodge Challengers and Chargers (original
>> ones) - plus, as soon as the new Challenger comes out, I am buying it.
>> Things have changed quite a bit at Chryco. I am really beginning to think
>> Toyota is slipping. My 2005 Sienna has been back to the dealer 4 times
>> now for fairly major things - my neighbors Dodge Caravan (who bought it
>> same week as I got the Sienna) put twice as many miles on it as I did and
>> has not taken it back once.
>>
>> I think all major manufacturers are finally getting it.
>>[/color]
>
> Well, lessee....I bought a 74 Dodge Challenger Rallye in Feb. 74. It
> barely lasted until 1985...continual problems with the carburetor. Look
> was ahead of its time, though.
> 318 V8 kicked butt, as did the Torqueflite transmission which one could
> shift manually.
>
>
>
>[/color]

Art wrote:
[color=blue]
> The Hemi is exceeding everyone's expectations. It is relatively simple and
> does everything right with acceptable gas mileage and good emissions.[/color]

Like I said, let's see how it holds up 5-10 years from now.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:05:23 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I had a 300M 1999 and a 2001 Avalon. The 300M was much better put together
>though there were major problems with the power windows. The Avalon was a
>rattle box with a worthless autoclimate control. We hated driving it and in
>5 years only put 22000 miles on it. Overall the 300M was the much better
>car.
>
>We traded the Avalon for a Honda minivan and we are giving the 300M to my
>in-laws. I'm sure I could have sold the Avalon privately pretty easily but
>I did not want to personally stick anyone in that car.[/color]

That is GREAT news!

Now bend over and wait for your Honda transmission to crap out...


--

Scott in Florida

Scott in Florida wrote:
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> That is GREAT news!
>
> Now bend over and wait for your Honda transmission to crap out...[/color]

Actually, Honda seems to have fixed their V6 auto tranny issues.
Definitely a lot more than one can say for Ford or Crapsler.

I'm surprised he didn't buy a Crapsler minivan, considering he was
plugging Crapsler so much.

I considered the Chrysler minivan but the Honda was clearly the best
handling/riding minivan on the market. Even though I thought my Avalon was
crap I considered the Sienna too. The Honda was a standout in my opinion.
And Scott the AT problems were 2 early part failures that were fixed long
ago.



"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Scott in Florida wrote:
>[color=green]
>> That is GREAT news!
>>
>> Now bend over and wait for your Honda transmission to crap out...[/color]
>
> Actually, Honda seems to have fixed their V6 auto tranny issues.
> Definitely a lot more than one can say for Ford or Crapsler.
>
> I'm surprised he didn't buy a Crapsler minivan, considering he was
> plugging Crapsler so much.
>[/color]