OT - The hammer strikes again

Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
channels.



--
Wingnut

wingnut wrote:[color=blue]
> Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
> ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
> we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
> they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
> verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
> million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
> letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
> channels.[/color]

The same morons in Houston probably aren't even aware that there's an
'internet', so what can you say? There you go, ad is being shown on
cable channels. That will reach a lot of the voting public. DeLay is
not a hammer, he's a snivelling little bitch.

wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
<jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
> ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
> seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
> because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
> that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
> lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.[/color]

Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.

--
"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
~ Will Rogers

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
> > ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
> > seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
> > because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
> > that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
> > lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.[/color]
>
> Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
> report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.[/color]

Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
haven't learned it yet.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:15:22 PM,
> <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad.
> > > > The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have
> > > > been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run
> > > > the ad because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically
> > > > the claim that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians."
> > > > Also, DeLay's lawyer sent letter to the local stations
> > > > threatening lawsuit. They wussed out, even though the ad is
> > > > being shown on cable channels.
> > >
> > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then
> > > don't report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.[/color]
> >
> > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
> > haven't learned it yet.[/color]
>
> And which news organization do they work for?[/color]

Time for a fact-check, my friend... did they run those SBV ads in
Houston? Because from all of the information I've seen, their 'facts'
most certainly cannot be verified. And, I presume there's some sort of
'news organization' on the local Houston channels.

I can understand your need to justify the political choices you've
made, however weak, baseless, and generally ridiculous your arguments
are. If I voted like you no doubt have over the past 6 years, I'd be
pretty damned pissed and I'd feel pretty duped.

Its ok though, soon as you want to come to reality, the Democratic
Party has its doors open and unlocked, so come on in.

In article <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
> > > ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
> > > seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
> > > because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
> > > that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
> > > lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.[/color]
> >
> > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
> > report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.[/color]
>
> Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
> haven't learned it yet.[/color]

because what they reported was true.
--
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit."

Vince Lombardi

Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:33:29 PM,
<1137184409.050408.128660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:15:22 PM,
> > <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
> > > > > ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
> > > > > we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
> > > > > they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
> > > > > verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
> > > > > million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
> > > > > letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
> > > > > channels.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then
> > > > don't report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > >
> > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National
> > > Committee haven't learned it yet.[/color]
> >
> > And which news organization do they work for?[/color]
>
> Time for a fact-check, my friend... did they run those SBV ads in
> Houston? Because from all of the information I've seen, their 'facts'
> most certainly cannot be verified. And, I presume there's some sort
> of 'news organization' on the local Houston channels.[/color]

Quit trying to spin everything. The news organizations are learning
(try it sometime) irresponsible "fact" reporting like CBS and NYT try
to push are going to be called. They've been spanked and are reeling
from loss of credibility, much like yourself.

The Swift Boat Veterans were never proven to be wrong and Kerry didn't
dare refute them. At least he had the sense to keep his mouth shut
when he had been cornered with his own words.

--
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the
support of Paul." ~ George Bernard Shaw

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:33:29 PM,
> <1137184409.050408.128660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:15:22 PM,
> > > <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
> > > > > > ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
> > > > > > we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
> > > > > > they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
> > > > > > verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
> > > > > > million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
> > > > > > letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
> > > > > > channels.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then
> > > > > don't report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > > >
> > > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National
> > > > Committee haven't learned it yet.
> > >
> > > And which news organization do they work for?[/color]
> >
> > Time for a fact-check, my friend... did they run those SBV ads in
> > Houston? Because from all of the information I've seen, their 'facts'
> > most certainly cannot be verified. And, I presume there's some sort
> > of 'news organization' on the local Houston channels.[/color]
>
> Quit trying to spin everything. The news organizations are learning
> (try it sometime) irresponsible "fact" reporting like CBS and NYT try
> to push are going to be called. They've been spanked and are reeling
> from loss of credibility, much like yourself.
>
> The Swift Boat Veterans were never proven to be wrong and Kerry didn't
> dare refute them. At least he had the sense to keep his mouth shut
> when he had been cornered with his own words.
>[/color]

Or, to put it even more simply, you're hopeless.

In article <1137190297.865967.226580@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:33:29 PM,
> > <1137184409.050408.128660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:15:22 PM,
> > > > <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
> > > > > > > ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
> > > > > > > we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
> > > > > > > they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
> > > > > > > verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
> > > > > > > million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
> > > > > > > letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
> > > > > > > channels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then
> > > > > > don't report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National
> > > > > Committee haven't learned it yet.
> > > >
> > > > And which news organization do they work for?
> > >
> > > Time for a fact-check, my friend... did they run those SBV ads in
> > > Houston? Because from all of the information I've seen, their 'facts'
> > > most certainly cannot be verified. And, I presume there's some sort
> > > of 'news organization' on the local Houston channels.[/color]
> >
> > Quit trying to spin everything. The news organizations are learning
> > (try it sometime) irresponsible "fact" reporting like CBS and NYT try
> > to push are going to be called. They've been spanked and are reeling
> > from loss of credibility, much like yourself.
> >
> > The Swift Boat Veterans were never proven to be wrong and Kerry didn't
> > dare refute them. At least he had the sense to keep his mouth shut
> > when he had been cornered with his own words.
> >[/color]
>
> Or, to put it even more simply, you're hopeless.[/color]

richard did you papa ever take out to the wood shed for a talking to?
--
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit."

Vince Lombardi

The beneVolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
> > > > ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
> > > > seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
> > > > because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
> > > > that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
> > > > lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.
> > >
> > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
> > > report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.[/color]
> >
> > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
> > haven't learned it yet.[/color]
>
> because what they reported was true.[/color]

prove it motherfucker

In article <1137190496.171375.67000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> The beneVolent dbu wrote:[color=green]
> > In article <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
> > > > > ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
> > > > > seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
> > > > > because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
> > > > > that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
> > > > > lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
> > > > report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > >
> > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
> > > haven't learned it yet.[/color]
> >
> > because what they reported was true.[/color]
>
> prove it motherfucker[/color]

Prove it wasn't
--
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit."

Vince Lombardi

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:42:28 GMT, The beneVolent dbu
<relaxand@smelltheroses.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
>> > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
>> > > ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
>> > > seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
>> > > because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
>> > > that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
>> > > lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
>> > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.
>> >
>> > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
>> > report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.[/color]
>>
>> Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
>> haven't learned it yet.[/color]
>
>because what they reported was true.[/color]

Yet they couldn't prove it to be true. Since they never did, there's
no need to refute it. Poor neocons. You'll never admit the lies your
party told you.
--
gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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The beneVolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1137190496.171375.67000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > The beneVolent dbu wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > In article <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay ad. The
> > > > > > ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which we have been
> > > > > > seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says they can't run the ad
> > > > > > because "all the claims can not be verified. specifically the claim
> > > > > > that DeLay received a million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's
> > > > > > lawyer sent letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable channels.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then don't
> > > > > report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > > >
> > > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National Committee
> > > > haven't learned it yet.
> > >
> > > because what they reported was true.[/color]
> >
> > prove it motherfucker[/color]
>
> Prove it wasn't[/color]

You can't prove it, yet you say its true.

When is that kool-aid going to kill you?

The beneVolent dbu wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1137190297.865967.226580@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:33:29 PM,
> > > <1137184409.050408.128660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:15:22 PM,
> > > > > <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
> > > > > > > > ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
> > > > > > > > we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
> > > > > > > > they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
> > > > > > > > verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
> > > > > > > > million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
> > > > > > > > letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
> > > > > > > > channels.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then
> > > > > > > don't report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National
> > > > > > Committee haven't learned it yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > And which news organization do they work for?
> > > >
> > > > Time for a fact-check, my friend... did they run those SBV ads in
> > > > Houston? Because from all of the information I've seen, their 'facts'
> > > > most certainly cannot be verified. And, I presume there's some sort
> > > > of 'news organization' on the local Houston channels.
> > >
> > > Quit trying to spin everything. The news organizations are learning
> > > (try it sometime) irresponsible "fact" reporting like CBS and NYT try
> > > to push are going to be called. They've been spanked and are reeling
> > > from loss of credibility, much like yourself.
> > >
> > > The Swift Boat Veterans were never proven to be wrong and Kerry didn't
> > > dare refute them. At least he had the sense to keep his mouth shut
> > > when he had been cornered with his own words.
> > >[/color]
> >
> > Or, to put it even more simply, you're hopeless.[/color]
>
> richard did you papa ever take out to the wood shed for a talking to?[/color]

What does that have to do with your ultra-conservative, ignorant
leanings? I'd be glad to let you try, were we closer to one another.
[color=blue]
> --
> "Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit."
>
> Vince Lombardi[/color]

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:33:29 PM,
> <1137184409.050408.128660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Learning Richard, 1/13/2006, 3:15:22 PM,
> > > <1137183322.666527.281160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > > wingnut, 1/11/2006, 11:22:39 PM,
> > > > > <jQkxf.6321$v05.4335@tornado.texas.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Local TV channels in Houston are refusing to air anti-DeLay
> > > > > > ad. The ad shows a lot of the items critical of DeLay which
> > > > > > we have been seeing on the net recently. Channel 11 says
> > > > > > they can't run the ad because "all the claims can not be
> > > > > > verified. specifically the claim that DeLay received a
> > > > > > million bucks from Russians." Also, DeLay's lawyer sent
> > > > > > letter to the local stations threatening lawsuit. They
> > > > > > wussed out, even though the ad is being shown on cable
> > > > > > channels.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like responsible journalism. If you can't verify it then
> > > > > don't report it. Maybe CBS and NYT will learn that soon.
> > > >
> > > > Why? The Swift Boat Veterans and the Republican National
> > > > Committee haven't learned it yet.
> > >
> > > And which news organization do they work for?[/color]
> >
> > Time for a fact-check, my friend... did they run those SBV ads in
> > Houston? Because from all of the information I've seen, their 'facts'
> > most certainly cannot be verified. And, I presume there's some sort
> > of 'news organization' on the local Houston channels.[/color]
>
> Quit trying to spin everything. The news organizations are learning
> (try it sometime) irresponsible "fact" reporting like CBS and NYT try
> to push are going to be called. They've been spanked and are reeling
> from loss of credibility, much like yourself.
>
> The Swift Boat Veterans were never proven to be wrong[/color]

Are you kidding? Never proven wrong? Of course they were -- time and
time again.
[color=blue]
>and Kerry didn't
> dare refute them. At least he had the sense to keep his mouth shut
> when he had been cornered with his own words.[/color]

What words? The insignificant (and grossly misrepresented) Cambodia
thing? What else?

How about you give me a list of what the SBV"t" were claiming about
Kerry's time in Vietnam, and I'll show you how they were proven wrong.

And that's considering we're talking about events that took place over
35 years ago. The fact that 1-2 guys claimed this or that happened a
certain way doesn't quite the mustard when many more claim something
else.

Purple Hearts? Bronze Star or Silver Star? Something else? Take your
pick.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Doug Reese